Religion and LGBT people

[John V]

Do you get so weird enjoyment from annoying me?
1. Are religions for or against LGBT people in their scriptures? And Why?

The vast majority of religions are neither for nor against LGBT people as their scriptures are older than the current LGBT paradigm. The notion that people are born with a certain sexual identity has only recently become widespread. You should do a little reading on historical concepts of sexuality.

[Aractus]

^ Please don't feed the troll.

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Nice deflection there lad.

THNX! XOXO

If you don't accord the rights that heterosexuals get to homosexuals then you are treating them differently.

Let me ask you a question - do you support the right of incestuous couples to marry too?

[Zen Badger]

^ Please don't feed the troll.

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Nice deflection there lad.

THNX! XOXO

If you don't accord the rights that heterosexuals get to homosexuals then you are treating them differently.

Let me ask you a question - do you support the right of incestuous couples to marry too?

The comment I was referring to was your treatment of gays, not whether you hated them.

How is this question relevant?

You made the specific claim that you don't treat gays differently to other non christians.

What I don't understand or appreciate is that you think I would treat homosexuals different to other non-Christians,

My counter argument is that you do because you don't think they should be allowed to marry.

So... do you treat them differently or not?

[Aractus]

How is this question relevant?

Because I must know if you treat incestuous couples differently or not.

[Zen Badger]

How is this question relevant?

Because I must know if you treat incestuous couples differently or not.

Deflect all you like Danny boy.

The fact is that you do treat gays differently.

That they are abominations because your big book of silly stories says so.

(Either that or you're a closet homophobe)

[Aractus]

I'm not deflecting, I must know if you treat incestuous couples differently or not. Do tell.

You're not the first, and you won't be the last. You have two options.

1. "I support the right of any two consenting adults ..."
2. "I do not support the right to have incestuous relationships"

Simple, which is it? 1 or 2?

[Zen Badger]

I'm not deflecting, I must know if you treat incestuous couples differently or not. Do tell.

You're not the first, and you won't be the last. You have two options.

1. "I support the right of any two consenting adults ..."
2. "I do not support the right to have incestuous relationships"

Simple, which is it? 1 or 2?

So you equate homosexuality with incest do you?

What about beastialty? or pedophilia? or even gang rape?

Because all of those have as much relevance to the topic at hand as incest does.

Getting back to my original point..... you do treat gays differently to other non christians because you would deny them the right to marry.
Despite your original claim.

[Dee Dee Ramone]

Do you get so weird enjoyment from annoying me?
1. Are religions for or against LGBT people in their scriptures? And Why?

The vast majority of religions are neither for nor against LGBT people as their scriptures are older than the current LGBT paradigm. The notion that people are born with a certain sexual identity has only recently become widespread. You should do a little reading on historical concepts of sexuality.

It doesn't mean sexual identity was absent before people took notion, that's the story of your God...he has always been absent. Is he gay too?

[John V]

The vast majority of religions are neither for nor against LGBT people as their scriptures are older than the current LGBT paradigm. The notion that people are born with a certain sexual identity has only recently become widespread. You should do a little reading on historical concepts of sexuality.

It doesn't mean sexual identity was absent before people took notion, that's the story of your God...he has always been absent. Is he gay too?

In the words of others on this thread...nice deflection.

[downbeatplumb]

I'm not deflecting, I must know if you treat incestuous couples differently or not. Do tell.

You're not the first, and you won't be the last. You have two options.

1. "I support the right of any two consenting adults ..."
2. "I do not support the right to have incestuous relationships"

Simple, which is it? 1 or 2?

Actually I can see what he is doing, he is questioning your use of the word "any".

And it is an interesting question, incest has an increased chance of producing deformities and other mutations BUT then so has the coupling of certain unrelated people with genetic illnesses.

So the added question is would I support restricting these peoples rights to mate?

My gut feeling to the second is no but to incest yes.

However I am not convinced that there is a large swathe of people outside of Kansas that are keen to couple with their close relatives, but I am ready to be swayed by any relevant arguments.

I think that the gays have now made their case and I for one support their rights.