Fetuses are people. Unless it costs the church money

[Darkstar]

Yeah, because the bible is an established fa- ...must...resist...urge.
*Darkstar resists urge*

Hi again,

I don't mind if you regard the bible as a load of rubbish, or a bunch of myths, or whatever - you are entitled to your opinion, I would never claim otherwise!

Okay. That's why I resisted the urge to talk about it.

Without taking the thread too much off topic, the Catholic view of the bible is:

Wait, what!?! But I...

you missed my point. Even if there is a 99.9% chance they are correct, they will say "alleged" or "reported" to avoid liability, so:

Yes - they will also use those words if they know they are wrong!

We are in full agreement as far as I can see!

If they knew it was inaccurate, why would they report it at all? Just because a news outlet says something was "reported" does not mean we should distrust it on the basis of wording. Now, if you have something like Fox, or there is obviously something wrong with the story, etc. then you might be suspicious (or you might not believe it at all), but using the word "alleged" or "reported" does not mean that whatever is "reported" is likely to be untrue (not quite as much so with alleged as with reported). Also, innocent people have been convicted of things they didn't do, and they were no longer simply "alleged" to have done them, and yet they didn't. So, being such a stickler over wording is just silly.

[Minimalist]

The law has to apply its principles consistently.

But obviously you feel the church can bullshit whenever it wants, right? Is that canon law? Did Herr Von Popenfuhrer pull that one out of his infallible ass or is it merely some legal game to try to protect their ill-gotten gains?