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RE: The end of the World is at hand.
August 27, 2009 at 4:00 pm
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(August 27, 2009 at 3:41 pm)The_Truth Wrote: Yes, I'm looking forward to the end of human civilization. How very sad. I, for one, think human life is a wonderful thing, and I would mourn its destruction (if i were still alive to mourn it).
Quote:Why are atheists rolling the dice with God's existence?
Why are you rolling the dice with Allah's existence? Or Zeus's existence? Why are you not arming yourself in preparation for Ragnarök?
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RE: The end of the World is at hand.
August 27, 2009 at 4:12 pm
(August 27, 2009 at 3:41 pm)The_Truth Wrote: Yes, I'm looking forward to the end of human civilization. This is God's word coming true thousands of years later. God said the end of the world will begin in the middle east and it will bring an end to mankind. When the first set of nuclear warheads are detonated, I will come into this forum and say, "I told you guys this day was coming". I hope everyone in here has enjoyed their visit on earth, because we are nearing the end of time.
The truly laughable thing is that wankers like you have been predicting the end of the world for thousands of years, they were wrong every single time before and I'm betting you'll be wrong now!
(August 27, 2009 at 3:41 pm)The_Truth Wrote: Just remember, God doesn't believe in atheists. And it's up to God when the world will end. Why are atheists rolling the dice with God's existence?
In that case you're god (if it exists) is a fuckwit because atheist exist whether it chooses to "believe" in them or not and we ARE NOT rolling the dice with you god's existence, WE DON'T FUCKING BELIEVE IN YOUR GOD OR ANY OF THE THOUSANDS OF OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN CLAIMED TO EXIST!!!!!!
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RE: The end of the World is at hand.
August 27, 2009 at 5:08 pm
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(August 27, 2009 at 4:00 pm)Cyphern Wrote: How very sad. I, for one, think human life is a wonderful thing, and I would mourn its destruction (if i were still alive to mourn it). Humans are about to reap what they sow. We now have the power of God at our fingertips. One press of a button, and the human race will be vaporized.
Quote:Why are you rolling the dice with Allah's existence? Or Zeus's existence? Why are you not arming yourself in preparation for Ragnarök?
1. Zeus nor Allah didn't say the end of time will come by fire and destruction arising from the middle east. Zeus was a mortal man that was killed during combat. He is hardly worshipped as a god. Once he died, his followers slowly faded away. Can you say the same for Jesus? 2. Allah didn't give us any indication about the end of time like Jesus did. Jesus told us to watch for these signs. And the signs we are witnessing are the beginning of sorrows. 3. Ragnarök is supposed to be the final battle between the gods, Odin, Thor, Freyr, etc..etc. But these supposed gods are already dead. They were mortal men (kings) claiming god-like status. Which leads me to believe Ragnarök is regurgitated stories.
(August 27, 2009 at 4:12 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: The truly laughable thing is that wankers like you have been predicting the end of the world for thousands of years, they were wrong every single time before and I'm betting you'll be wrong now! Yes, Christians have been predicting the end of time for 2,000 years, and they have been wrong every single time. But Jesus said; "No one knows of that hour or day". But in another verse, Jesus said, "Watch out for these signs of the times".
Quote:In that case you're god (if it exists) is a fuckwit because atheist exist whether it chooses to "believe" in them or not and we ARE NOT rolling the dice with you god's existence, WE DON'T FUCKING BELIEVE IN YOUR GOD OR ANY OF THE THOUSANDS OF OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN CLAIMED TO EXIST!!!!!!
No, You're wrong again. Atheists do not exist in the eyes of God. The same way God doesn't exist in the eyes of an atheist. But one thing you are not understanding is, God has the power over you. What he says goes. And that's that.
And I'm not concerned about ancient man worshipping idols and statues. they don't count. The Bible says we are to worship "the one and only true God" of the Universe. And God is surely not a cement statue, or a wooden idol.
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RE: The end of the World is at hand.
August 27, 2009 at 5:19 pm
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(August 27, 2009 at 2:34 pm)The_Truth Wrote: The world is coming to an end. All believers in God will be raptured, and all nonbelievers will be left behind to face the wrath of a nuclear war (Hell on Earth).
Oh hello! I didn't think I'd see you again.
So lets assume a nuclear war would kill 100% of the population. Also, that bomb shelters don't exist along with hydroponics, renewable energy and a bunch of other stuff useful for keeping people alive in bomb shelters for prolonged periods. Where's the actual part about the world being destroyed? The world doesn't care about our species and will happily plod on without us. Also, this vision of hell you have is quite tame. Everything the same except there's more cancer, and we can cure that a lot of the time. Us 1:0 god.
(August 27, 2009 at 2:34 pm)The_Truth Wrote: There is something big brewing and it cannot be stopped. I am not scared of your silly deity, fiction or not. Bring it!
(August 27, 2009 at 5:08 pm)The_Truth Wrote: No, You're wrong again. Atheists do not exist in the eyes of God. The same way God doesn't exist in the eyes of an atheist. But one thing you are not understanding is, God has the power over you. What he says goes. And that's that.
Well if it has as much evidence for us as we have for it, why would it even bother with us as it thinks we aren't real.
Utter nonsense.
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RE: The end of the World is at hand.
August 27, 2009 at 5:48 pm
(August 27, 2009 at 5:19 pm)rjh Wrote: Oh hello! I didn't think I'd see you again.
So lets assume a nuclear war would kill 100% of the population. Also, that bomb shelters don't exist along with hydroponics, renewable energy and a bunch of other stuff useful for keeping people alive in bomb shelters for prolonged periods. The earth will not be in any condition for life to survive. I don't care if someone is in a bomb shelter for 20 years.
Quote:Where's the actual part about the world being destroyed?
The earth shall pass away.
Quote:The world doesn't care about our species and will happily plod on without us. Also, this vision of hell you have is quite tame. Everything the same except there's more cancer, and we can cure that a lot of the time. Us 1:0 god.
The end of space and time means just that. There is no more living species on earth. the earth will not go on without us. My vision of Hell is mankind being burned alive and tortured for disobeying God's command. These people will be left behind to feel the seering heat of a nuclear war.
Quote:I am not scared of your silly deity, fiction or not. Bring it!
No one said you had to be afraid.
Quote:Well if it has as much evidence for us as we have for it, why would it even bother with us as it thinks we aren't real.
Why would God reveal his himself to you? I think you have it backwards. You better reveal yourself to him. It's pretty basic. God wins, you lose.
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RE: The end of the World is at hand.
August 27, 2009 at 5:53 pm
You overestimate human power exponentially... we do not currently posses the power to 'vaporize' the world, let alone the entire human race... and by the time we are (if indeed that ever happens): your religion's 'OMG END OF THE WORLD' will have to apply to hundreds... maybe thousands of starsystems... let alone tens of thousands of planets.
I have never understood 'The end of the world'... because our world is not flat, and it will continue to exist (although in which state?) probably longer than we (as a race) will.
Zeus isn't worhiped today??
http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/20...zeus_x.htm
Allah didn't claim the end times will come from the middle east? Where the hell do Muslims originate from?! (Surely i don't have to link up the quotes themselves...), Here's a link that will 'educate you' about the Koran, of which you shouldn't make statements about things you have nothing about.
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/
Zeus was never a mortal man in their religion, he was the son of a god (who ate his own children), and the son (Zeus) murdered his daddy (Who had defeated chaos), and became the primary god figure to the Greeks.
Jesus told you to watch for the signs that have been crowded around the roadside of humanity since it went big.
http://www.bifrost.no/index.php?Itemid=1...&task=view
the norse worshipers are still around. Forgive me for linking to you the english one online... i don't expect you to read that language. In Ragnarok... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnarök ... simply and aptly put.
And jesus is always right, amiright? And appearently i do not exist (As far a 'God' is concerned), and therefore i need not worry at all about the Apocalypse. I mean... if i don't exist... i clearly can't be killed. He can't do anything to me, because i don't exist. He can't do anything that would interfere with me in the slightest... because the concept of 'me' doesn't exist to him. He cannot have power over that which doesn't exist.
Tell me your god is not an idol after you visit the Vatican. And not only do you have that One god... but you have hundreds of little demigods... and of course little wanna-be god's son-characters...
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RE: The end of the World is at hand.
August 27, 2009 at 5:54 pm
(August 27, 2009 at 5:48 pm)The_Truth Wrote: ]The earth will not be in any condition for life to survive. I don't care if someone is in a bomb shelter for 20 years.
Baseless assertion made to fit your presuppositions.
Quote:The earth shall pass away.
The Earth isn't alive...
Quote:The end of space and time means just that. There is no more living species on earth. the earth will not go on without us. My vision of Hell is mankind being burned alive and tortured for disobeying God's command. These people will be left behind to feel the seering heat of a nuclear war.
A nuclear war will not bring an end to space and time. You'd be vastly overestimating our technology if you think we can construct weapons that disintegrate everything within a 13.7 billion light year radius. Also, how will we be left behind seering in the heat of a nuclear was if time and space no longer exist? Final point, your vision for hell is quite sickening to me, as I'm not even in my 20s and I've done a lot of work for charity and am an all-round nice guy. Such wicked torture and pain is rather excessive a punishment for being questioning of a contradictory book written by desert goat herders 2000 years ago.
Quote: Why would God reveal his himself to you? I think you have it backwards. You better reveal yourself to him. It's pretty basic. God wins, you lose.
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RE: The end of the World is at hand.
August 27, 2009 at 6:01 pm
(August 27, 2009 at 5:48 pm)The_Truth Wrote: (August 27, 2009 at 5:19 pm)rjh Wrote: Oh hello! I didn't think I'd see you again.
So lets assume a nuclear war would kill 100% of the population. Also, that bomb shelters don't exist along with hydroponics, renewable energy and a bunch of other stuff useful for keeping people alive in bomb shelters for prolonged periods. The earth will not be in any condition for life to survive. I don't care if someone is in a bomb shelter for 20 years.
Quote:Where's the actual part about the world being destroyed?
The earth shall pass away.
Quote:The world doesn't care about our species and will happily plod on without us. Also, this vision of hell you have is quite tame. Everything the same except there's more cancer, and we can cure that a lot of the time. Us 1:0 god.
The end of space and time means just that. There is no more living species on earth. the earth will not go on without us. My vision of Hell is mankind being burned alive and tortured for disobeying God's command. These people will be left behind to feel the seering heat of a nuclear war.
Quote:I am not scared of your silly deity, fiction or not. Bring it!
No one said you had to be afraid.
Quote:Well if it has as much evidence for us as we have for it, why would it even bother with us as it thinks we aren't real.
Why would God reveal his himself to you? I think you have it backwards. You better reveal yourself to him. It's pretty basic. God wins, you lose.
The Earth will pass away? What kinda stupid omnipotent god would go to all the trouble of making it in the first place if he was going to destroy it anyway. What's he waiting for?
End of time?! All for a single planet's sentient population? That doesn't make sense to me... if i don't like something i've made: i destroy that, and try to make something better from the little broken pieces. And i don't wait thousands of years to decide it either... it takes me moments. I would expect more of a god.
And why the hell would i reveal myself to someone who would kill me on sight?! What kinda morons do you think we are?
Seriously... take my previous advice and preach this to Muslims, or other Christians.
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RE: The end of the World is at hand.
August 27, 2009 at 6:28 pm
(August 27, 2009 at 5:08 pm)The_Truth Wrote: (August 27, 2009 at 4:12 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: The truly laughable thing is that wankers like you have been predicting the end of the world for thousands of years, they were wrong every single time before and I'm betting you'll be wrong now! Yes, Christians have been predicting the end of time for 2,000 years, and they have been wrong every single time. But Jesus said; "No one knows of that hour or day". But in another verse, Jesus said, "Watch out for these signs of the times".
And so to the question ... why the fuck should we give your claim any greater credence than any of the other fucking ones?
(August 27, 2009 at 5:08 pm)The_Truth Wrote: (August 27, 2009 at 4:12 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: In that case you're god (if it exists) is a fuckwit because atheist exist whether it chooses to "believe" in them or not and we ARE NOT rolling the dice with you god's existence, WE DON'T FUCKING BELIEVE IN YOUR GOD OR ANY OF THE THOUSANDS OF OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN CLAIMED TO EXIST!!!!!! No, You're wrong again. Atheists do not exist in the eyes of God. The same way God doesn't exist in the eyes of an atheist. But one thing you are not understanding is, God has the power over you. What he says goes. And that's that.
As far as anyone rational can tell YOUR GOD IS A FIGMENT OF YOUR DERANGED MIND! There is NO REASON WHY WE SHOULD TREAT YOU AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN A DELUDED TOSSPOT!
YOUR GOD HAS NO POWER OVER US BECAUSE YOUR GOD APPEARS TO BE UNREAL!
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RE: The end of the World is at hand.
August 27, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Rrriiiggghhhttt. So somehow nuclear war is supposed to destroy time and space now. There isn't as much fire involved in the majority of death caused by nuclear weapons. Most of it is caused by radiation after the fact.
(August 27, 2009 at 5:48 pm)The_Truth Wrote: The earth will not be in any condition for life to survive. I don't care if someone is in a bomb shelter for 20 years. We will adapt, we could live indefinitely in the imaginary conceptual bunkers.
(August 27, 2009 at 5:48 pm)The_Truth Wrote: The earth shall pass away. no it wont.
(August 27, 2009 at 5:48 pm)The_Truth Wrote: The end of space and time means just that. There is no more living species on earth. the earth will not go on without us. So after the nukes fly, something else happens to get rid of everything? that makes the nukes a tad redundant dont you think?
(August 27, 2009 at 5:48 pm)The_Truth Wrote: My vision of Hell is mankind being burned alive and tortured for disobeying God's command. These people will be left behind to feel the seering heat of a nuclear war.Quote:nuclear war wouldnt do that. So clearly youre being confused somwhere.
[quote='The_Truth' pid='28529' dateline='1251409685']No one said you had to be afraid.[quote]
Thats nice.
[quote='The_Truth' pid='28529' dateline='1251409685']Why would God reveal his himself to you? I think you have it backwards. You better reveal yourself to him. It's pretty basic.
I tried. For twenty years a Christian. He must have been ignoring me
His turn.
[quote='The_Truth' pid='28529' dateline='1251409685']God wins, you lose god will not show for the event. I'm going to win by default.
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