Question about female worth in islam.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

it is God who said that women are/will tend to sin more

No it wasn't. It was fools like you.

[WesOlsen]

God who created human, gave men and women different merits. Even many non-Muslim scientists agree on that.

You mean a learned behavioural merit or a genetic/biological merit? I'm sure describing the difference to you would be a complete waste of time. In short, yes, there are subtle differences in the cell biology of female brains. Certain regions activate differently to various stimuli, but the same experiments tend to show the same basic facts: That the capacity for learning information is more or less equal amongst the sexes, the capacity for emotion is more or less equal (even when we factor hormones in to the equation), the capacity for mental aptitude on various tasks is more or less the same (such as driving a car for example). My work profession is in a Pathology lab, and i'm not going to even bother detailing how evolutionary science offers a way better explanation for biological gender differences amongst humans, other hominids and all other members of the animal kingdom (gender differences vary widly from species to species by the way).

As an example, Dr Summers (Harvard President) told the conference about giving his daughter two trucks. She treated them like dolls, and named them mummy and daddy trucks, he said

Because of a combination of maternal biology and cultural stimuli (from tv etc) I expect. What Dr Summers probably didn't say is that when his daughter grows up, she shouldn't be allowed to drive a truck.

You based your assertions on false premises (men and women are equal)

At least your openly admitting now that you think women are not equal to men, even if it does make you a complete tool.

On the other hand, God gave each one his fitted role, women are better in treating children specially at young age, they are more patient and emotional
Men are more practical and fitted to work outside and care about financial and political issues

This may be the case in the muslim world, in which women are expected to stay at home and raise childred whilst men go out and fulfil their natural impulses to do finance and politics stuff (real MAN stuff). Ever thought that through centuries of enforcing gender roles that perhaps women would show good child-rearing skills becasue they've been culturally conditioned to believe that's the only thing they'll ever be good at? In the western world this is increasingly uncommon. Men have been shown, using the same science that you cherry picked above and would usually reject, to be capable of showing huge paternal behavioural patterns. Their hormones undergo radical changes during early parenting, and they are often at their most placid and gentle, because they've evolved with it, just like women have. The idea that men are more practical or better suited to narrow and poorly-defined muslim job roles like handyman or oil baron just goes to show what an utter fool you are. Women can be sucessful in politics, and academically women outperform men in primary and secondary schooling in almost every subject in every western country. Contrast that to the schooling of women in parts of the Islamic world, which ranges from non-existent to segregated and insular. Illiteracy rates are through the roof in some countries. If you gave your women the opportunity to learn you'd be shocked to discover that they'd likely blossom in to much more distinguished characters than you could ever hope to.

[Aegrus]

Wow, someone necro'd my old post?

Well, at least the good guys are winning.

[Muslim Scholar]

US Government is not hierarchical. The public figures are governing at the well of the citizens, and the citizens can remove said public representative through voting.

The current conditions have companies as citizens and given some leeway toward influencing the voting system. This is a flaw inherited to the interpretation of current laws.

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How do you explain people who don't fall into those set gender expectations? I have met several men who were emotional and more patient than others, and women who were impatient and could act as cold as ice. It usually has to do with personal upbringing. Plenty of women out there care about finances and politics. I also met plenty of both genders who don't care about politics. Or do they fall under the category of sinners?

Yes, there are variations
but for the best of the family (in most cases) is that man is the boss and women care about children

Islam does also allow for exceptions, for example in the marriage contract some conditions can be added to handle special cases

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it is God who said that women are/will tend to sin more

No it wasn't. It was fools like you.

Empty assertions

I proved God existence
I know it is a bit challenging for somebody like you
but why don't you try to refute the proof

[Fidel_Castronaut]

No it wasn't. It was fools like you.

Empty assertions

I proved God existence
I know it is a bit challenging for somebody like you
but why don't you try to refute the proof

Haha. Empty assertions! Surely you can troll harder than that, dipshit.

Go on, give it a try.

Why don't you try thinking?

[WesOlsen]

I proved God existence

LOL



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[Sleepy]

The most logical women is not as logical as the most logical man. Women have lapses in judgement, they use their emotions and feelings more. That's just their nature.

Women are given property rights in Islam while in the west women didn't start getting property rights until 1800-1900s

Women are given rights under divorce and under Islam you're supposed to give women respect. The reason women are to cover their hair because without it they're sex objects that men stare. At least in America that's how it is

West women rights- dancing naked in music videos to lyrics calling women bitches and hoes and only for male pleasure. Women's rights! Lol

Islam- women cover up, have respect, property rights, divorce rights

I honestly laugh at your idea of women rights. It's the liberal media that has forced this down your throats.

[WesOlsen]

The most logical women is not as logical as the most logical man. Women have lapses in judgement, they use their emotions and feelings more. That's just their nature.

Where's your proof for this, or is it based on your own field research? In fact you should publish all your findings and pick up a nobel prize, you can include your evidence for jinns and magic carpets too

Women are given property rights in Islam while in the west women didn't start getting property rights until 1800-1900s

Women in Islam were no more free and liberated than women in medieval europe or anywhere else in the world. You have an incorrect and rose tinted view of history, because you've never bothered to study it objectively. Granting women some meagre property rights does not constitute liberty. In a legal sense women were still treated very diferently from men, worth about half as much typically. Oh, and queen Elizabeth owned a lot of property, probably more than any woman in Islam ever did.

Women are given rights under divorce and under Islam you're supposed to give women respect. The reason women are to cover their hair because without it they're sex objects that men stare. At least in America that's how it is

No, women have to cover themselves up so that men won't get boners. It is assumed in Islam that men don't have the willpower to simply look away or think about something else, hence every female ruling is designed to benefit the man and not the woman. Women in Islam have to spend their life monitoring their behaviour (or quite often having it monitored by male family members) so as to benefit muslim men's sexual frustration. Why should women have to disgrace themselves with undignified and ghastly bedsheets because you can't come to terms with your erection? You're a fucking cretin.

West women rights- dancing naked in music videos to lyrics calling women bitches and hoes and only for male pleasure. Women's rights! Lol

Islam- women cover up, have respect, property rights, divorce rights

Actually yeah I think there is merit in a certain degree of modesty. I too think that endless sex saturation from music videos etc can have negative effects on children. However women grinding in r'n'b videos has nothing to do with women reaching prominent positions in the business and cultural world, which is largely supressed in backwards Islamic countries.

West - A very mixed bag, differing from country to country, but on the whole progressively liberating conditions for women (in all sectors of life)

Islam - Women confined to functional roles and treated as property, to be owned and traded by men (the ruling class). No real liberty, ultra strict rules that rigidly restrict employment and cultural opportunities. Name me one modernised Islamic country in which women are roughly equally represented in non sexy music video roles such as Business or the arts? Name me one Islamic country that prominently features women in government? Angela Merkel has more diplomatic/political power than any man is the Islamic world. There are hundreds more examples.

I honestly laugh at your idea of women rights. It's the liberal media that has forced this down your throats.

It is your retarded desert anthology of bedtime stories that has caused you to view women as shit, and believe in fairy tales demons that live in marshes or whatever. Even the worst heroin-addled slag whore woman in my country has more dignity and sophistication than you.

[Silver]

The most logical women is not as logical as the most logical man. Women have lapses in judgement, they use their emotions and feelings more. That's just their nature.

Absurd.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

The most logical women is not as logical as the most logical man. Women have lapses in judgement, they use their emotions and feelings more. That's just their nature.

False.

Foolish comment made by a foolish fool.

Women are given property rights in Islam while in the west women didn't start getting property rights until 1800-1900s

Women are given rights under divorce and under Islam you're supposed to give women respect. The reason women are to cover their hair because without it they're sex objects that men stare. At least in America that's how it is

West women rights- dancing naked in music videos to lyrics calling women bitches and hoes and only for male pleasure. Women's rights! Lol

Islam- women cover up, have respect, property rights, divorce rights

I honestly laugh at your idea of women rights. It's the liberal media that has forced this down your throats.

Blah blah blah blah.

When was the last time you heard of a country in the west allowing the stoning of a woman for revealing some leg, or, god forbid, having sex with someone she liked that she didn't have to marry?

Hey, did you hear that time that a western court demanded that a woman marry her rapist else face an even more severe punishment?

Oh yeah, it was never.

You shame humanity. And if Allah was real, I'm pretty sure you'd shame him too, scum.