Frodo you are a typical Christian. You get mad when someone brings up a logical point to prove that the Bible is wrong. No one can prove there is no God but we sure as hell can make the Bible look like garbage.
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Sinners cannot understand the Bible!
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (September 2, 2009 at 4:15 pm)Saerules Wrote: Weird... it doesn't make much sense to me... probably because i don't like debating with things that don't debate back.!  ...but maybe this will make it clearer Saerules DLF Wrote:Frodo you are a typical Christian. You get mad when someone brings up a logical point to prove that the Bible is wrong. No one can prove there is no God but we sure as hell can make the Bible look like garbage. You sure can if you want to think like the brain dead. There is no logical point to disprove the bible. Only wild misrepresentation. 
To you, "logic" begins with "the bible is true."
Talk about a faulty premise.  (September 2, 2009 at 3:41 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: It's explanation of every passage of the bible from a consistent POV. Utterly refuting, without trying, absolutely everything in the skeptics laughable misinterpretation. And this is going to prove objective values in the process huh? Interpretaction is a subjective matter....and the horrible shit in the bible is literally horrible, so how can this be explained away when it's just a subjective interpretation that apparently explains that it's somehow not horrible, or that overall the bible 'must be good' - a totally subjective judgement. For it to at all make sense in a good or bad way overall for sure, you've gotta have a non-subjective interpretation. So you've gotta prove (well, give strong evidence for!) the existence of objective values first then. I've gave that site a glance before...I can take a look agian, but I'm really not expected it to prove objective values..and that's not what it's there for anyway is it(?) - So how is it going to give an interpretation with any merit whatsoever, if it's just a subjective one that can't dodge all the literal horrors in an unbiast sense therefore (due to its subjectivity). *shrugs* I'll take a look but I'm not going to pretend to be opimistic, because I'm kind of expecting some subjective interpretations that aren't going to be able to have the amazing power to somehow explain the whole book as being 'good', when there's a load of extremely horrible and unnecessarily ugly, despicable, and barbaric filth in there! Really fucked up immoral shit that literally is that way, doesn't get explained away by subjective interpretation! There would need to be objective values here! And there is no evidnece for objective values...right? Do you agree there? EDIT: Update! I've read the Biblegateway commentry on the Evils of Genesis 6:7, and correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I can see, this interpretation of 6:7 attempts to explain away such evils by saying that they all deserved it because they were sinners? http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/co...voked-Gods And regardless of if I am right or not in what it means (and if I am right, to say it's a fucking shitty justification would be a gross understatement!), why should one believe this interpreation over any other? Unlike the literal interpretation that God literally flooded the whole world and killed everything! EvF 
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
*Sweeping bow* You are quite welcome for it, Fr0do.
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
(September 2, 2009 at 6:15 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I deeply respect your thoughtful and inciteful contribution again Saerules. And I deeply respect your at best mildly amusing disingenuousness(!)...or shall we just say unnecessary and dull facetiousness?  Well! We're having a right party right here right now ain't we!!  EvF RE: Sinners cannot understand the Bible!
September 2, 2009 at 6:20 pm
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