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Why can't science detect angels and demons?
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
(February 20, 2013 at 1:28 am)Drich Wrote: how else could you possibly know what billy actually wrote when there are no orginal manuscripts? Doesn't that technically mean all of the works accredited to him are "bastardized?"

If that is the case, your quote is still bastardized.
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#12
RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
It's not just Christians. Religious Jews will pray 3 times a day and at the end will bow in 3 different directions, one to Michael, one to Gabriel, and then straight ahead (God). On Friday night, when the husband arrives home from evening service, the family sings a song to welcome the pair of angels that followed him home and then to send them away. On preperation for repentance, there are a series of poems (Kinot), and one of them directly asks an angel to deliver a message to God, and the Rambam criticised such a thing, but it is still in the collection of prayers (granted, a few communities omit it, but only out of deference to the Rambam). And, of course (based on the book of Daniel), when two nations are fighting, the belief that it is an expression of their angesl who are fighting, since each nation has it's own angel.

For demons, religious Jews will wash their hands first thing in the morning because Dybbuks reside under the fingernails (tiny demons). Feminist Jewsesses have accepted Lilith as a symbol of their plight, who is the mother of demons (as a result of wanting to have the dominant sexual position with Adam). The last recorded exorcism was by the Chofetz Chaim, but the idea of posession is not unheard of. And, of course, the Babylonian Talmud is full of ghosts, and demons (especially those who dwell in the latrines and ruins), and many students of those texts have taken them to be lieterally true and, therefore, unquestioned in their authenticity.

Yeah, people love this Angel and Demon stuff. I don't think it matters which religion.
“I've done everything the Bible says — even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!"— Ned Flanders
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#13
RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
(February 20, 2013 at 12:55 am)Drich Wrote: How is my answer not an awesome answer? It take what is recorded in the bible and what 'science' claims and seamlessly puts them together. The only thing that has to be sacrificed or left behind is a juvenile/Hollywood understanding of how science and the bible must remain separate.

*facepalm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5DcUtsvQMc
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
George Carlin Wrote:Here’s another question I’ve been pondering... what is all this shit about angels? Have you heard this? Yeah... 3 out of 4 people now believe in angels. What are you fucking stupid? Has everybody lost their fucking mind in this country? Angels... shit! You know what I think it is? I think it’s a massive, collective, psychotic, chemical flashback of all the drugs, ALL the drugs smoked, swallowed, snorted, shot, and absorbed rectally by all Americans from 1960 to 1990; 30 years of adulterated street drugs will get you some fucking angels my friend! Angels... shit! What about goblins huh? Doesn’t anybody believe in goblins? Never hear about them except on Halloween and it’s always negative shit too you know? And zombies... where the fuck are all the zombies? That’s the trouble with zombies; they’re unreliable. I say if you’re gonna buy the angel shit you might as well go for the zombie package as well.
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
(February 20, 2013 at 3:22 am)Ryantology Wrote:
(February 20, 2013 at 1:28 am)Drich Wrote: how else could you possibly know what billy actually wrote when there are no orginal manuscripts? Doesn't that technically mean all of the works accredited to him are "bastardized?"

If that is the case, your quote is still bastardized.

point was it was the pot calling the kettle black.
Or a bastard, calling another man a bastard, in a room full of bastards.

(February 20, 2013 at 9:35 am)thesummerqueen Wrote:
George Carlin Wrote:Here’s another question I’ve been pondering... what is all this shit about angels? Have you heard this? Yeah... 3 out of 4 people now believe in angels. What are you fucking stupid? Has everybody lost their fucking mind in this country? Angels... shit! You know what I think it is? I think it’s a massive, collective, psychotic, chemical flashback of all the drugs, ALL the drugs smoked, swallowed, snorted, shot, and absorbed rectally by all Americans from 1960 to 1990; 30 years of adulterated street drugs will get you some fucking angels my friend! Angels... shit! What about goblins huh? Doesn’t anybody believe in goblins? Never hear about them except on Halloween and it’s always negative shit too you know? And zombies... where the fuck are all the zombies? That’s the trouble with zombies; they’re unreliable. I say if you’re gonna buy the angel shit you might as well go for the zombie package as well.


The funny thing is ole Georgie knows more about all of this now than the best theologian.
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
(February 19, 2013 at 11:27 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Why won't demons and devils show their face and prove to us their supernatural power?

Because they are sneaky.

(February 19, 2013 at 11:27 pm)Brakeman Wrote: What do they have to lose in doing so?

The element of surprise.

(February 19, 2013 at 11:27 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Why would they delight in torturing us when we don't tow god's lines? Aren't they fighting against god?

Hey you know, we take our delights in torture when we can.

Fight against god?

Against our most effective instrument of torture?

You just don't get it. Tiger
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#17
RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
Oh yes, I'm sure you do believe that George Carlin repented on his deathbed and now is floating in heaven. Just like The Hitch did.

Or burning in hell.

Go wank it, Drich. I forgot to put you on 'ignore'.
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
(February 19, 2013 at 11:27 pm)Brakeman Wrote: If angels walk among us, at so many pastors claim, why can't atheists detect them?
Because you're all worthless and weak! Now drop and give me twenty!!
Is that a pledge pin on your uniform?
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
(February 20, 2013 at 11:32 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: Oh yes, I'm sure you do believe that George Carlin repented on his deathbed and now is floating in heaven. Just like The Hitch did.

Or burning in hell.

Go wank it, Drich. I forgot to put you on 'ignore'.

That repent went something like this ...

"Sorry I was born god, and had all those thought crimes you gave me." Undecided
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RE: Why can't science detect angels and demons?
(February 20, 2013 at 12:23 am)Stue Denim Wrote:
Quote: How would an physical angel or demon differ from anyone else? What would "science" look for?

Don't seraphim have 6 wings? (isaiah 6)
Don't the cherubim have 4 faces? A cherub, a man, lion and eagle. (eziekiel 10)
Daniel 10 has a rather weird angel.

those angels minister in the presence of God
why would you find them here on earth?
"This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
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