Why can't science detect angels and demons?

[thesummerqueen]

Perspective's a bitch.

[junkyardboy]

I am in complete agreement. junkyard is using a rather junky sort of argument ad populum by way of history, is all I was commenting on.

Humanity hasn't really changed for the past several thousand years, except to, if you believe statistics, actually become gradually less violent. Perhaps we're starting to scare the shit out of ourselves with our capacity to create weapons. Perhaps the oxytocin is ramping up. Who knows.

Either way, I do know that homo sapiens is homo sapiens and getting rid of religion would still leave people with fantasy prone personalities replacing gods with other shit. Not because the supernatural exists, but because our brains are pattern seeking and are still wired for pareidolia and many other chemically reacting mindsets - whether it's a feeling of oneness with the universe or a tripped trigger that makes you hear voices that aren't actually there.

For all a lot of theists and believers like to believe humans are fragile and something stronger and supernatural must exist, they are quite keen to ignore the actual fragility of the human brain which might just be fragile enough to trick them into all sorts of things.

so all humanity has been deluded and it is only you and your tiny band of atheists that have ever known reality.

[thesummerqueen]

Gee and much of humanity used to think that slavery was acceptable, and yet here we are....abolishing it wherever possible, rooting it out wherever not.

Laugh it up, McTrollpherson.

[junkyardboy]

Gee and much of humanity used to think that slavery was acceptable, and yet here we are....abolishing it wherever possible, rooting it out wherever not.

Laugh it up, McTrollpherson.

so what does that have to do with the reality of the gods?

[thesummerqueen]

No one has evidence for the reality of god, for one.

But more directly, many humans used to believe that slavery was right and acceptable.

I suspect religion will die out when it also becomes less economically feasible.

[junkyardboy]

No one has evidence for the reality of god, for one.

But more directly, many humans used to believe that slavery was right and acceptable.

I suspect religion will die out when it also becomes less economically feasible.

perhaps the god of this world wants you enslaved?
more likely

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Christians of today are veering away from the angels and demons found in their storybook, not to mention even cockatrices. Why can't science detect these? Why haven't we found Cockatrice skeletons? Why can't science detect the demons inside people today that the church still yet exorcises?
If angels walk among us, at so many pastors claim, why can't atheists detect them? What "magic" do they use to hide themselves and why?

Why won't demons and devils show their face and prove to us their supernatural power? What do they have to lose in doing so? Why would they delight in torturing us when we don't tow god's lines? Aren't they fighting against god?

you are not worshiping them properly

[The Grand Nudger]

Care to describe how such gods are to be worshipped, you know, if we want to do it properly? Link to any relevant source or evidence, I want to make sure I get this right.

[thesummerqueen]

Or maybe you just like spewing shit to irritate people?

Also more likely.

[junkyardboy]

Care to describe how such gods are to be worshipped, you know, if we want to do it properly? Link to any relevant source or evidence, I want to make sure I get this right.

i just showed you one
google any god you want
molech, baal, aztec and mayan gods, etc you like.
then get to worshiping and you can tell us what reveals its self to you.
good old scientific duplication and falsification

[The Grand Nudger]

You didn't show me anything troll. You just claimed that people weren't worshipping some shadowy spirit in the right way without explaining what the right way was or how you came upon that knowledge. Do work. Google wont tell me anything about any how I'm supposed to worship some god here in the real world, it'll just link to this or that fairy tale, some collection of beliefs held by your fellow nutters. Tell me you can do better?