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RE: Any questions on Islam?
March 20, 2013 at 5:18 am
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(March 20, 2013 at 1:27 am)Kayenneh Wrote: (March 19, 2013 at 9:25 pm)mo66 Wrote: So you think a person who asks a question about a book, can not quote the book?
I'll bite. You ask me a question about the Harry Potter series, e.g. 'What was Voldemort's real name?'. I'll answer Tom Riddle, because that is indeed written many times in the book. But is Voldemort a fictional character? Oh yes, just because he's mentioned over and over in several books, it doesn't make him real.
(Though, he does live in my closet. Prove me wrong!) So you agree with me then! That's a real relief because it looks like a lot more Atheists on here are really really ignorant and not only that, but they're quite proud of it too. Ignorance isn't really something which is difficult to deal with, education deals with that. But when you're ignorant and also arrogant, well...
If somebody asks me a question about Islam, where am I going to get the answers from? Just make it up? Of course not, we get it from the Qur'an plain and simple. Not too difficult to understand. Just like if a person asks about Tom Riddle, you have to refer to Harry Potter books, or if somebody asks about "The God delusion" you have to refer to the book.
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RE: Any questions on Islam?
March 20, 2013 at 5:28 am
(March 20, 2013 at 5:18 am)mo66 Wrote: So you agree with me then! That's a real relief because it looks like a lot more Atheists on here are really really ignorant and not only that, but they're quite proud of it too. Ignorance isn't really something which is difficult to deal with, education deals with that. But when you're ignorant and also arrogant, well...
Amazing how someone as dishonest and ignorant as you can think that he has the right to call people "arrogant".
You should first start delivering actual arguments and deliver responses to arguments against you, instead of your usual whining and lying, before you can call anyone arrogant.
Quote:If somebody asks me a question about Islam, where am I going to get the answers from? Just make it up? Of course not, we get it from the Qur'an plain and simple.
If someone asks me a question about Ulysses, wheredo I get the answere from? - From the novel Ulysses.
So what! Is the fact that you can answere questions about a book because you know the book talling anything about the books truth? Or does it make that book less fictional?
NO
Quote:Not too difficult to understand. Just like if a person asks about Tom Riddle, you have to refer to Harry Potter books, or if somebody asks about "The God delusion" you have to refer to the book.
I didnt read the god delusion.
et I read quite a few science books, especialy by the behavior scientist Konrad Lorenz. The difference between a science book and your arab fairy tale is that the science book was based on observation. In Konrad Lorenz study of the behavior of tomcats he clearly discribes their movements and behavioral patterns based on years of observation.
One actualy is capable to recreate the circumstances discribed in the book and undergo the same experiment and conduct the observation abain with the same results. Meaning: the book is based on reality.
Whilest your arab fairytale is based on the epeleptic gibberish by a 6th century, narcessist, pedophile, warlord.
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RE: Any questions on Islam?
March 20, 2013 at 5:32 am
Looks like someone on my ignore list has posted haha what waste of time. A truly vile individual.
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RE: Any questions on Islam?
March 20, 2013 at 5:35 am
(March 20, 2013 at 5:32 am)mo66 Wrote: Looks like someone on my ignore list has posted haha what waste of time. A truly vile individual.
Being on your ignore list, doesnt hinder me on reading your posts.
And it does certainly not hinder me, on taking the shit you keep spewing arround the forum and throwing it back into your face.
BRACE YOURSELF! I shall keep debunking your nonsence!
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RE: Any questions on Islam?
March 20, 2013 at 5:38 am
(March 19, 2013 at 10:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (March 19, 2013 at 9:30 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: Says who? Does the Quran really say that? And where?
Quran defines who you can have marriage with and forbids sex outside marriage.
The hadith further elaborates on Quran, and has severe consequences to anyone caught by four witnesses doing the act. That's right
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RE: Any questions on Islam?
March 20, 2013 at 8:27 am
(March 20, 2013 at 5:18 am)mo66 Wrote: So you agree with me then! That's a real relief because it looks like a lot more Atheists on here are really really ignorant and not only that, but they're quite proud of it too. Ignorance isn't really something which is difficult to deal with, education deals with that. But when you're ignorant and also arrogant, well...
If somebody asks me a question about Islam, where am I going to get the answers from? Just make it up? Of course not, we get it from the Qur'an plain and simple. Not too difficult to understand. Just like if a person asks about Tom Riddle, you have to refer to Harry Potter books, or if somebody asks about "The God delusion" you have to refer to the book.
You just missed my point by a mile..
The gist of what I wrote is this: The applications of the quaran in the real world is about as many as those of Harry Potter, 0.
Sure, it's nice to discuss literature during book clubs and analyze certain passages, but it doesn't make the story any more real, ne comprenez-vous?
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Any questions on Islam?
March 20, 2013 at 7:27 pm
Quote:Well, if there are 2 homosexual Muslims, who both know they are homosexual and are attracted to the same gender, they are not allowed to engage in any sexual contact, and it is not permitted for two people of the same gender to sleep under the same duvet/cloth.
How do you rectify Allah and the existence of homosexuality? I don't know if your religion claims that Allah is mans' creator or not, but, it sounds like it's okay to be homosexual as long as you don't act out on it in any way including looking or thinking impure thoughts about another or laying under the same duvet. How can this be considered healthy or 'good' for a homosexual Muslim in any way? And why do you feel your God do this to his own people (create them knowing a percentage would be impure)?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Any questions on Islam?
March 21, 2013 at 6:39 am
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(March 20, 2013 at 8:27 am)Kayenneh Wrote: (March 20, 2013 at 5:18 am)mo66 Wrote: So you agree with me then! That's a real relief because it looks like a lot more Atheists on here are really really ignorant and not only that, but they're quite proud of it too. Ignorance isn't really something which is difficult to deal with, education deals with that. But when you're ignorant and also arrogant, well...
If somebody asks me a question about Islam, where am I going to get the answers from? Just make it up? Of course not, we get it from the Qur'an plain and simple. Not too difficult to understand. Just like if a person asks about Tom Riddle, you have to refer to Harry Potter books, or if somebody asks about "The God delusion" you have to refer to the book.
You just missed my point by a mile..
The gist of what I wrote is this: The applications of the quaran in the real world is about as many as those of Harry Potter, 0.
Sure, it's nice to discuss literature during book clubs and analyze certain passages, but it doesn't make the story any more real, ne comprenez-vous? No, you missed my point missy.
Simple concept: a person asks a question about Islam, gets a response using Islamic text. Just like a person asks a question about evolutionary biology, gets a response from a biology text. Comprende? How stupid are the people of this forum really?
(March 20, 2013 at 7:27 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: Quote:Well, if there are 2 homosexual Muslims, who both know they are homosexual and are attracted to the same gender, they are not allowed to engage in any sexual contact, and it is not permitted for two people of the same gender to sleep under the same duvet/cloth.
How do you rectify Allah and the existence of homosexuality? I don't know if your religion claims that Allah is mans' creator or not, but, it sounds like it's okay to be homosexual as long as you don't act out on it in any way including looking or thinking impure thoughts about another or laying under the same duvet. How can this be considered healthy or 'good' for a homosexual Muslim in any way? And why do you feel your God do this to his own people (create them knowing a percentage would be impure)? To answer your first question as to how this could be considered "good" or "healthy", they are following the laws of the Lord of All Creation and the All-Knowing, the All-Wise, so therefore, it is automatically good by virtue of that.
The texts are very clear, God allows people to act whichever they wish, he tests them how He wants.
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RE: Any questions on Islam?
March 21, 2013 at 7:03 am
(March 21, 2013 at 6:39 am)mo66 Wrote: No, you missed my point missy.
Simple concept: a person asks a question about Islam, gets a response using Islamic text. Just like a person asks a question about evolutionary biology, gets a response from a biology text. Comprende? How stupid are the people of this forum really?
"missy"? I think a German woman would feed you your own balls of you would call her "missy". But what to expect from a muslim?
Anyway, you dont understand the concept.
A science book is based on observations on that scientific field and the concluding theory which can be reobserved and thereby reevaluated on a constant basis.
Your book, is based on the random gibberish of a 7th century antisemitic pedophile, epeleptic and warmonger.
(March 20, 2013 at 7:27 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: To answer your first question as to how this could be considered "good" or "healthy", they are following the laws of the Lord of All Creation and the All-Knowing, the All-Wise, so therefore, it is automatically good by virtue of that.
So why arent you out in the streets hacking peoples arms off? burning down liquor stores? Stoning those who left islam? and other such wonderfull stuff that your quoran demands from you?
Because you are assimilated and can only stick to claims which wont get you into jail.
Quote:The texts are very clear, God allows people to act whichever they wish, he tests them how He wants.
So he is nothing but a freak playing with an antihill with his magnifying glass?
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RE: Any questions on Islam?
March 21, 2013 at 10:40 am
Germans Wrote:"missy"? I think a German woman would feed you your own balls of you would call her "missy".
So would a Finnish woman too, but I don't have time to bring forth my microscope and my tweezers
Germans Wrote:Anyway, you don't understand the concept.
A science book is based on observations on that scientific field and the concluding theory which can be reobserved and thereby reevaluated on a constant basis.
Your book, is based on the random gibberish of a 7th century antisemitic pedophile, epeleptic and warmonger.
Thank you, I might have not put it quite that way, but that was certainly my point.
(March 21, 2013 at 6:39 am)mo66 Wrote: Simple concept: a person asks a question about Islam, gets a response using Islamic text. Just like a person asks a question about evolutionary biology, gets a response from a biology text. Comprende?
I never said it was wrong to go back to islamic texts when talking about the topic. But with your 'logic', all works of fiction is in that case true and you're comparing a cook book with a scroll on how to make a love potion.
Quote:How stupid are the people of this forum really?
Do you have a mirror? Look in it to get your answer.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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