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Atheists; what do you base your morals on?
#91
RE: Atheists; what do you base your morals on?
Nothing's ever simple, is it?
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#92
RE: Atheists; what do you base your morals on?
Quote:What's wrong with throwing rocks at adulterers?

It makes YOU a fucking murderer, asshole. Apparently that's okay with your blood-soaked god but it bugs the shit out of me.
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#93
RE: Atheists; what do you base your morals on?
Aaaand once again Min shows me that, yes, sometimes things ARE that simple.

Can I please get a turn with Occam's Razor yet, Min? You've been using it forever!
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#94
RE: Atheists; what do you base your morals on?
(March 8, 2013 at 11:21 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:What's wrong with throwing rocks at adulterers?

It makes YOU a fucking murderer, asshole. Apparently that's okay with your blood-soaked god but it bugs the shit out of me.
Calm down dear. You're quite old, nearing the end of your life. Do you really want to bow out having such a malicious vile attitude?
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#95
RE: Atheists; what do you base your morals on?
(March 8, 2013 at 11:42 am)mo66 Wrote:
(March 8, 2013 at 11:21 am)Minimalist Wrote: It makes YOU a fucking murderer, asshole. Apparently that's okay with your blood-soaked god but it bugs the shit out of me.
Calm down dear. You're quite old, nearing the end of your life. Do you really want to bow out having such a malicious vile attitude?

Which is the vile part? Your being okay with stoning adulterers or his finding that repugnant?
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#96
RE: Atheists; what do you base your morals on?
(March 8, 2013 at 11:11 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(March 8, 2013 at 11:02 am)Baalzebutt Wrote: And, in point of fact, Mo...

In the case of the adultery, you were neither directly, nor indirectly, harmed and you have NO RIGHT whatsoever to mete out punishment of any kind to those who engaged in it. That right is reserved for those who were harmed.
hmmm... I see you used the "In the case of adultery", but this is something you can't apply to murderers.... And popular justice is almost always exaggerated and often misguided, so justice should be dealt with by a third party, aka, the judicial system.

You make a good point but we are also talking about very different types of behaviors. I don't think anyone here would disagree that murder is a far more heinous and far-reaching crime than adultery.

So, while it is appropriate for the justice system to take action on a murder which is primarily a social crime, it is a very different thing for the justice system to take on adultery, which is, by-and-large, a personal misjudgement.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." -Einstein
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#97
RE: Atheists; what do you base your morals on?
(March 8, 2013 at 11:42 am)mo66 Wrote:
(March 8, 2013 at 11:21 am)Minimalist Wrote: It makes YOU a fucking murderer, asshole. Apparently that's okay with your blood-soaked god but it bugs the shit out of me.
Calm down dear. You're quite old, nearing the end of your life. Do you really want to bow out having such a malicious vile attitude?

Min wasn't the one justifying the stoning of another human being. Now tell us again who has a malicious vile attitude.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#98
RE: Atheists; what do you base your morals on?
(March 8, 2013 at 12:48 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote:
(March 8, 2013 at 11:11 am)pocaracas Wrote: hmmm... I see you used the "In the case of adultery", but this is something you can't apply to murderers.... And popular justice is almost always exaggerated and often misguided, so justice should be dealt with by a third party, aka, the judicial system.

You make a good point but we are also talking about very different types of behaviors. I don't think anyone here would disagree that murder is a far more heinous and far-reaching crime than adultery.

So, while it is appropriate for the justice system to take action on a murder which is primarily a social crime, it is a very different thing for the justice system to take on adultery, which is, by-and-large, a personal misjudgement.
Indeed... and that is why it doesn't.
But, of course, the injured party cannot retaliate with something that would force the justice system to intervene.
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#99
RE: Atheists; what do you base your morals on?
(March 8, 2013 at 11:42 am)mo66 Wrote:
(March 8, 2013 at 11:21 am)Minimalist Wrote: It makes YOU a fucking murderer, asshole. Apparently that's okay with your blood-soaked god but it bugs the shit out of me.
Calm down dear. You're quite old, nearing the end of your life. Do you really want to bow out having such a malicious vile attitude?

Fuck your god, your prophet and you. Answer your question, dickhead?
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RE: Atheists; what do you base your morals on?
(March 8, 2013 at 12:55 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(March 8, 2013 at 11:42 am)mo66 Wrote: Calm down dear. You're quite old, nearing the end of your life. Do you really want to bow out having such a malicious vile attitude?

Min wasn't the one justifying the stoning of another human being. Now tell us again who has a malicious vile attitude.
What is wrong with asking a question? I asked for justification as to why he thinks it's immoral and what evidence or logic he's using, and all I get is a foul-mouthed rant. Is that what the Atheists of this forum are reduced to? Argument from ridicule? Not surprising that some people on here can't reason, we're looking at a very old age group in Min. Intellect isn't sharp at such an age.

(March 8, 2013 at 1:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(March 8, 2013 at 11:42 am)mo66 Wrote: Calm down dear. You're quite old, nearing the end of your life. Do you really want to bow out having such a malicious vile attitude?

Fuck your god, your prophet and you. Answer your question, dickhead?
I'm mesmerised by your debating skills (!)

(March 8, 2013 at 12:48 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote:
(March 8, 2013 at 11:11 am)pocaracas Wrote: hmmm... I see you used the "In the case of adultery", but this is something you can't apply to murderers.... And popular justice is almost always exaggerated and often misguided, so justice should be dealt with by a third party, aka, the judicial system.

You make a good point but we are also talking about very different types of behaviors. I don't think anyone here would disagree that murder is a far more heinous and far-reaching crime than adultery.

So, while it is appropriate for the justice system to take action on a murder which is primarily a social crime, it is a very different thing for the justice system to take on adultery, which is, by-and-large, a personal misjudgement.
What do you mean personal judgement? Why can't it also be a social crime?
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