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Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
#31
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
(March 8, 2013 at 9:10 pm)mo66 Wrote:
(March 8, 2013 at 9:06 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: The world is overpopulated. It is the number-one problem threatening the entire world because it is destroying the environment. I'm for the death penalty and I strongly support a woman's right to choose, and think she should choose abortion if she does not want a child.
What if a woman gives birth but doesn't want the baby anymore, can she strangle it to death or not? Do you think it's moral to do that?
She can strangle it if she wants to, but she will be arrested for that. Yes, I think it's morally sound to do that. Although there are less painful ways to die than strangulation.

(March 8, 2013 at 9:08 pm)catfish Wrote: I say we kill all little doggies and kitties. After all, they take up a huge amount of resources...
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We probably should do that with all of unwanted cats and dogs in the world.
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#32
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
(March 8, 2013 at 9:11 pm)genkaus Wrote:
(March 8, 2013 at 9:08 pm)mo66 Wrote: But how can you say it's immoral to have gender-selective abortions when you believe that there is nothing wrong with a woman aborting purely because it is her own body? I'm trying to reconcile the two viewpoints with the reasoning you gave but it's difficult.

I don't know how many ways I can say it in - its the gender-selection part that makes it immoral not the abortion part.

But you don't object to species-selection (I.E. death for any reason)... That's what I see too.
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#33
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
(March 8, 2013 at 9:14 pm)catfish Wrote: But you don't object to species-selection (I.E. death for any reason)... That's what I see too.
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What the hell is species selection? Is that another name for evolution?
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#34
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
(March 8, 2013 at 9:13 pm)futilethewinds Wrote:
(March 8, 2013 at 9:10 pm)mo66 Wrote: What if a woman gives birth but doesn't want the baby anymore, can she strangle it to death or not? Do you think it's moral to do that?
She can strangle it if she wants to, but she will be arrested for that. Yes, I think it's morally sound to do that. Although there are less painful ways to die than strangulation.

(March 8, 2013 at 9:08 pm)catfish Wrote: I say we kill all little doggies and kitties. After all, they take up a huge amount of resources...
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We probably should do that with all of unwanted cats and dogs in the world.
Wow, you're quite blood thirsty Wink Is this a fear of overpopulation driving you on? Smile
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#35
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
No, that's the sanctioned murder of human life. You're OK with that yet draw the line at selecting sex?
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#36
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
(March 8, 2013 at 9:20 pm)mo66 Wrote:
(March 8, 2013 at 9:13 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: She can strangle it if she wants to, but she will be arrested for that. Yes, I think it's morally sound to do that. Although there are less painful ways to die than strangulation.

We probably should do that with all of unwanted cats and dogs in the world.
Wow, you're quite blood thirsty Wink Is this a fear of overpopulation driving you on? Smile
It's better to kill a kitten sooner than let it starve to death, which is what often happens to unwanted kittens. It's more merciful.
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#37
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
(March 8, 2013 at 9:20 pm)catfish Wrote: No, that's the sanctioned murder of human life. You're OK with that yet draw the line at selecting sex?
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Pretty much - if the sanction is justified - in which case it isn't murder - as you Christians love to argue.
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#38
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
(March 8, 2013 at 9:24 pm)genkaus Wrote:
(March 8, 2013 at 9:20 pm)catfish Wrote: No, that's the sanctioned murder of human life. You're OK with that yet draw the line at selecting sex?
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Pretty much - if the sanction is justified - in which case it isn't murder - as you Christians love to argue.

Wow, you're messed up too... Undecided
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#39
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
(March 8, 2013 at 9:28 pm)catfish Wrote: Wow, you're messed up too... Undecided

What's messed up about it?
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#40
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
(March 8, 2013 at 8:16 pm)catfish Wrote: WTF? Homosexuality shouldn't be prevented but life should(could)?!?!?
You're seriously messed up girl...
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Don't call me girl or I will follow you around this forum calling you cockface, dickhead. Your hyperbole skips right over the main issues with both topics. If you care to pull your panties out of your twat and have a grown-up conversation, I will be waiting, boy.

(March 8, 2013 at 8:19 pm)mo66 Wrote: Why can't the death penalty be a punishment?

It can be, but I don't support it as such, nor do we, as a society, look at it that way.

Quote:You think it's fair for you to abort a foetus that your boyfriend wants to keep?

Well, must be a giant ass you pulled that one out of. I never, ever even insinuated that I would not give my boyfriend a say in the matter.

Quote:Also, why do you think abortions are ok? I assume you also support post-natal abortions.

Because a clump of cells is not yet a human being. It has potential and potential is great, but it is not human. Nice try, dinglebert. That is not an abortion.
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