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Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 24, 2013 at 12:22 am
WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK???!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/23...ostpopular
A young British man has been convicted of manslaughter after killing a gay teen by setting him on fire.
The BBC reports that 20-year-old Jordan Sheard has been sentenced to three and a half years in jail for the death of Steven Simpson after pleading guilty to manslaughter charges. Simpson, 18, died one day after sustaining "significant burns" in June 2012, according to the report.
impson had Asperger's syndrome, a speech impairment and epilepsy, the Yorkshire Post noted. The teen had reportedly been dared to strip down to his underpants before being doused in tanning oil, after which Sheard set him aflame at the party. Other reports said that anti-gay messages, including "gay boy" and "I love d*ck," had been found scrawled across Simpson's body.
"This was a cruel case of bullying based on Steven’s sexuality and disability," Warburton is quoted as saying. "While we accept Jordan did not intend to kill Steven, his actions did lead to his death."
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 24, 2013 at 12:25 am
Three years? That's all? It makes me sad, because it is as though society is basically stating he did nothing wrong.
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 24, 2013 at 12:33 am
Right? I want to know how they think this wasn't infuckingtentional?! Also, this 'young man' was twenty fucking years old.
I'm so pissed off I could hurl.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 24, 2013 at 12:49 am
(March 24, 2013 at 12:22 am)missluckie26 Wrote: "This was a cruel case of bullying based on Steven’s sexuality and disability," Warburton is quoted as saying. "While we accept Jordan did not intend to kill Steven, his actions did lead to his death."
So if he didn't think that dousing someone with a flammable fluid and lighting them on fire might kill them, he gets a slap on the wrist. No doubt the next bigoted mouth-breather will think twice before trying to kill a homosexual, seeing as he might face a staggering 42 months in prison.
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 24, 2013 at 1:09 am
A freak tanning oil fight accident?
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 24, 2013 at 1:14 am
Maybe.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 24, 2013 at 1:19 am
(March 24, 2013 at 12:22 am)missluckie26 Wrote: "This was a cruel case of bullying based on Steven’s sexuality and disability," Warburton is quoted as saying.
More like murder.
(March 24, 2013 at 12:22 am)missluckie26 Wrote: "While we accept Jordan did not intend to kill Steven, his actions did lead to his death."
Right. He doused him with an accellerant and then fucking set him on fire, but he didn't intend to kill him.
I can't decide who's the bigger asshole, the guy who set someone on fire, or the dickhead who's apologizing for his murderous behavior.
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 24, 2013 at 1:21 am
(March 24, 2013 at 1:19 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I can't decide who's the bigger asshole, the guy who set someone on fire, or the dickhead who's apologizing for his murderous behavior.
I was thinking the same thing.
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 24, 2013 at 1:24 am
(March 24, 2013 at 1:21 am)Mr Infidel Wrote: (March 24, 2013 at 1:19 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I can't decide who's the bigger asshole, the guy who set someone on fire, or the dickhead who's apologizing for his murderous behavior.
I was thinking the same thing.
I dunno, man. All I know is that every time I've set someone on fire intentionally (*), I meant to kill them.
(*) That would be zero times.
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RE: Disabled Gay teen burned alive at a BDAY party, perp gets 3years?
March 24, 2013 at 1:27 am
The hardest thing with those who have Asperger's is to know when they are being made fun of/ the point of a joke. They initially see the bully as just wanting to be friends.
Anyone having a slight desire to oil up this mr Sheard's groin and set it on fire?
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