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RE: [split] Critical Thinking Skills
March 29, 2013 at 10:33 pm
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jstrodel, the formula is valid, but it isn't sound.
The argument from authority just increase the probability of it being true from the perspective of "for all we know" if applied correctly.
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RE: [split] Critical Thinking Skills
March 29, 2013 at 10:38 pm
(This post was last modified: March 29, 2013 at 10:38 pm by jstrodel.)
It isn't absolute definitely. But what sort of argument outside of mathematics produces certain conclusions? I think the argument from authority is a good argument, if you have a well developed sense of what constitutes a good authority. This is not easy to do, but if you have this, it is a good argument.
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RE: [split] Critical Thinking Skills
March 29, 2013 at 10:53 pm
(March 29, 2013 at 10:38 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Nice signature.
Thanks.
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RE: [split] Critical Thinking Skills
March 30, 2013 at 1:42 am
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(March 29, 2013 at 10:38 pm)jstrodel Wrote: It isn't absolute definitely. But what sort of argument outside of mathematics produces certain conclusions? I think the argument from authority is a good argument, if you have a well developed sense of what constitutes a good authority. This is not easy to do, but if you have this, it is a good argument.
It can be compelling to a certain subset, but the accuracy of it's conclusion is not a guarantee even when correctly leveraged (which most - yourself included - seem incapable of achieving).
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RE: [split] Critical Thinking Skills
March 30, 2013 at 2:59 am
(March 28, 2013 at 1:31 pm)Joel Wrote: This is because you don't need to read a book on logic to understand logic.
There is no religion of atheism.
There is no faith involved.
Well... there is the faith in logic.
Atheism+ seems to be interested in making a religion of atheism
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RE: [split] Critical Thinking Skills
March 30, 2013 at 7:37 am
Real programmers use Atheism++
Fakers use that Atheism# garbage.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: [split] Critical Thinking Skills
March 30, 2013 at 8:19 am
(March 30, 2013 at 7:37 am)Tonus Wrote: Real programmers use Atheism++
Fakers use that Atheism# garbage.
Hey man, it's all about Pytheism these days.
(March 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm)ThatMuslimGuy2 Wrote: Never read anything immoral in the Qur'an.
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RE: [split] Critical Thinking Skills
March 30, 2013 at 11:48 am
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Atheist# is a robust, fault tolerant enterprise level kiddie smurfing development kit (a KMDK)
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RE: [split] Critical Thinking Skills
March 30, 2013 at 11:49 am
(March 29, 2013 at 10:19 pm)jstrodel Wrote: This is America, people can debate about anything in America, its free speech, that means you can say whatever you want. Doesn't matter whether you know what you are talking about, so long as you care.
I'd say there's as many Europeans here as Americans, if not more.
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RE: [split] Critical Thinking Skills
March 30, 2013 at 11:49 am
(March 30, 2013 at 11:48 am)jstrodel Wrote: Atheist# is a robust, fault tolerant enterprise level kiddie smurfing development kit (a KMDK)
We can both agree that it's a step up from Atheist Basic, right?
(March 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm)ThatMuslimGuy2 Wrote: Never read anything immoral in the Qur'an.
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