What is your alternative to abortion?

[Neo-Scholastic]

One among many...but I love'ya anyway.

[Minimalist]

No Tex. Here, in the US, religion has no place making any laws in any area. Period.

You mean a lawmaker should completely disregard their religion while making a policy decision? Not humanly possible.

Yes.

If he can't separate his superstitions from the need to govern then he should not run for office.

Also....religious fucktards should not molest children or steal money and I guess it isn't humanly possible for them to avoid that, either?

[Mr_Dew7]

How about we stop getting pregnant.. here's some news: sex causes pregnancy!! I know it's hard to say no people, but it's much harder to raise a child.. I know.. I've got one.. Regardless of whatever you say.. Babies are human beings, so why is it okay to kill them? Would you like to be killed just because your parents can't afford you? It's no different than killing a child that has already been born...

But let me guess: You oppose contraception.

I see it as outright totalitarian to oppose abortion and to then also oppose contraception in a way which implies that you or others want to inforce these moral codes on sociaty in total.

I have a right to my sexlife!

It is non of you fucking buisness nore the buisness of any religious institution what the fuck I do in my bedroom!

And it is benefitial for sociaty in total to be educated on sex.


I agree that having less sex will stop abortions and that being a pious sexless religious individual will also stop abortions, yet your moral codes on sexuality of which the repressentatives have the audaciousness to imply that they should be applied on sociaty in total deserve nothing but complete rejection!
Do as an individual as you wish! But stay the fuck out of peoples sexlives!

You asked a question and I answered. And no, I don't oppose contraception! Why would I? My wife is making use of the Mirena currently!! USE CONTRACEPTION!! PLEASE!! And no, I don't believe in sex before marriage. That is what I feel is right. But I didn't come on here posting about what you do in you bedroom. It's your choice! My point is this: if you don't want to have a baby, then don't have sex! It's that simple. It is the best and only 100% prevention of pregnancy. Don't get me wrong, because I love sex! Who doesn't? Do I believe that it should only come with the holy institution of heterosexual marriage? Abso - freaking - lutely! It's not that hard of a decision to make! And it is completely unfair to kill a living human being because you made a stupid decision and couldn't keep from getting your rocks off! If you must have sex, then use contraception! But I still say, and will always say, ABORTION IS MURDER! And anyone who aborts a child should be treated as a murderer!

[Foxaèr]

My point is this: if you don't want to have a baby, then don't have sex! It's that simple. It is the best and only 100% prevention of pregnancy.

I am sorry that you are so ignorant, but not everyone who becomes pregnant had consensual sex. Also, women can still become pregnant while on the pill and even condoms are not one hundred percent preventative measures. A woman should not have to carry a fetus to term if she was raped or if she is not financially able to support it. Adoption is not a viable option either, considering how many unwanted children are already in foster care. The last thing we need is to increase the population when we cannot even care for more than half of the world's population as it is.

[Mr_Dew7]

My point is this: if you don't want to have a baby, then don't have sex! It's that simple. It is the best and only 100% prevention of pregnancy.

I am sorry that you are so ignorant, but not everyone who becomes pregnant had consensual sex. Also, women can still become pregnant while on the pill and even condoms are not one hundred percent preventative measures. A woman should not have to carry a fetus to term if she was raped or if she is not financially able to support it. Adoption is not a viable option either, considering how many unwanted children are already in foster care. The last thing we need is to increase the population when we cannot even care for more than half of the world's population as it is.

Oh I was looking forward to the part where we start insulting each other!!! I just knew it would come! Yay! How would you feel if you were the one being aborted, because your mother was the victim of an attack like that? It is not fair. Period. It's a horrible thing when this happens, but would you like to be killed just because you mom and dad couldn't afford you? It's murder, regardless of what you try to argue. Murder is murder. The next thing you know you will probably be voting to kill people to slow population growth. There is no difference in killing an unborn baby as there is in killing one who has been born already. Would you kill a toddler because you couldn't afford him or her? Or is that just too wrong for you? This argument is ridiculous. You are on the side of murderers.

[Foxaèr]

How would you feel if you were the one being aborted, because your mother was the victim of an attack like that?

I would not feel any particular way in regards to having been aborted, because I would not be in existence to feel any particular way about it. And besides, that would be an appeal to emotion, which is not a logical line of reasoning.

[Mononoke]

There is no difference in killing an unborn baby as there is in killing one who has been born already.

A zygote/embryo/foetus occupies the body of someone else. A baby doesn't. Pretty big difference.

Oh, and the term "unborn baby" is more of your illogical appeal to emotion.

[Mr_Dew7]

How would you feel if you were the one being aborted, because your mother was the victim of an attack like that?

I would not feel any particular way in regards to having been aborted, because I would not be in existence to feel any particular way about it. And besides, that would be an appeal to emotion, which is not a logical line of reasoning.

You are right. You wouldn't feel any particular way about it, being an unborn baby knowing nothing of emotion, I agree with you. But how does the fetus's knowledge of its own emotion have any bearing on the existence of the fetus? It's still a human being. It's appalling to me that you differentiate between types of murder. Why is it okay to murder one human and not another?

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There is no difference in killing an unborn baby as there is in killing one who has been born already.

A zygote/embryo/foetus occupies the body of someone else. A baby doesn't. Pretty big difference.

Oh, and the term "unborn baby" is more of your illogical appeal to emotion.

You dispute the FACT that an unborn baby is a human? That a fetus is a human? And what is this "illogical appeal to emotion"? Appealing to the base of the human experience is illogical?

[Foxaèr]

But how does the fetus's knowledge of its own emotion have any bearing on the existence of the fetus?

Stating that the fetus has any knowledge of its own existence is absurd. The bundle of cells does not have cognition.

[Kayenneh]

How would you feel if you were the one being aborted, because your mother was the victim of an attack like that?

Nothing, or do you suggest that I should have memories from before I was born?

And anyone who aborts a child should be treated as a murderer!
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Why is it okay to murder one human and not another?

Isn't that a bit harsh? What about soldiers, executioners and people who kill others in self defense? Are they any more justified in taking fully developed human lives?