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RE: God Loves Me, Too
April 4, 2013 at 7:15 pm
Looks like someone doesn't know how to prepare pan-fried salmon-egg brownies! *surreptitiously points at Rhythm*
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RE: God Loves Me, Too
April 4, 2013 at 7:16 pm
I should have known that some sick fucker somewhere was bound to like salmon eggs...and that said sick fucker was bound to be an AF poster.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: God Loves Me, Too
April 4, 2013 at 7:20 pm
(April 4, 2013 at 6:23 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (April 4, 2013 at 6:20 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: ...because frankly Chad, I don't think I could stand an hour in your heaven I don't know about you but evil spirits don't like heaven. To them it's dark and they can't breath.
ummm, and where are you getting this little tidbit of information??
A comic book? Constantine? the local ordained dipshit that keeps his head tucked safely in his asshole?
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RE: God Loves Me, Too
April 4, 2013 at 7:24 pm
(This post was last modified: April 4, 2013 at 7:35 pm by Godscreated.)
(April 4, 2013 at 12:56 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: (April 4, 2013 at 12:53 pm)Godschild Wrote: What you are calling restrictions Christians see as guidelines and thus we see our lives being guided not controlled. Yes we allow ourselves to be guided, it is part of having a relationship with God our Savior.
That's fair, everyone is allowed to live their lives as they see fit, but why do a lot of people still judge other's and doesn't let them live their lives in peace as well?
Some see their way of life threaten, some truly care about others to witness to them, some are taught wrongly to badger, others do not realize they are, some believe that only they count and ect. There are probably many other reasons, those are off the top of my head.
Thanks for believing I have the right you subscribe to yourself, in case you want to know, I fall in with the ones who care and most of the time I know when to stop, I always try to see where the Holy Spirit is working.
(April 4, 2013 at 1:19 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (April 4, 2013 at 12:53 pm)Godschild Wrote: What you are calling restrictions Christians see as guidelines and thus we see our lives being guided not controlled. Yes we allow ourselves to be guided, it is part of having a relationship with God our Savior.
Why then do you insist that everyone be "guided" just as you are?
I do not do that and I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, sometimes I stress my point strongly, but it's usually when someone does not answer a specific point I'll make. I realize where I'm at in arguments on this site, and I always hope something I say may make a difference, but I do not push my Christianity in a way to make you try and believe. Remember this please, I of all who are or have been on this forum am as strong of a believer in free will as any, and that if the Holy Spirit is not working with a person there is no need to witness.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: God Loves Me, Too
April 4, 2013 at 9:09 pm
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(April 4, 2013 at 7:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: Remember this please, I of all who are or have been on this forum am as strong of a believer in free will as any, and that if the Holy Spirit is not working with a person there is no need to witness.
What a massive copout. Jesus would role over in his grave if he heard you say that.
Secondly, who the fuck are you to decide if the Holy Spirit (something that can't be neither seen nor heard) is or is not working with a person?? Sounds like filthy apologists rhetoric and a bull shit excuse.
Christians always want it both ways:
"I hope the words I say are heard and I can be a witness and do as Jesus commanded."
VS.
"I'm not doing shit because I know the Holy Spirit doesn't give a shit about you."
God damn fucking christians. Choose a story and fucking stick with it for Shiva's fucking sake.
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RE: God Loves Me, Too
April 4, 2013 at 10:09 pm
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(April 4, 2013 at 7:20 pm)Cinjin Wrote: ummm, and where are you getting this little tidbit of information??
"...he that is in the mere delight of the body or of the flesh can have no knowledge of or belief in a single one of these innumerable delights; for his interiors, as has just been said, look away from heaven towards the world, thus backwards....or what is the same, in the love of self and of the world, has no sense of delight except in honor, in gain, and in the pleasures of the body and the senses" Heaven and Hell 398
"... A little child was then sent by the Lord, at whose presence they [the wicked] were so tortured that they could scarcely breathe, in which state they were kept even until driven to supplications, and thus were thrust down into hell...The persuasion of truth when man is in the life of evil is of such a nature that he persuades himself that truth is truth, not for the sake of good as the end, but for the sake of evil as the end, namely, that he may thereby gain honors, reputation, and wealth. The very worst of all are able to be in such a persuasion, and also in apparent zeal, to such a degree as to condemn to hell all who are not in truth, however much these may be in good. (Concerning this persuasion see n. 2689, 3865.) When such persons first come into the other life they believe themselves to be angels; but they cannot approach any angelic society; being as it were suffocated by their own persuasion as soon as they come near it....." Heaven and Hell 3895.
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RE: God Loves Me, Too
April 4, 2013 at 10:27 pm
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From an incredibly bigoted work of fiction published in the 1700's, where else Cin?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: God Loves Me, Too
April 4, 2013 at 10:44 pm
(April 4, 2013 at 10:27 pm)Rhythm Wrote: From an incredibly bigoted work of fiction published in the 1700's, where else Cin? Bigoted? How so?
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RE: God Loves Me, Too
April 4, 2013 at 10:54 pm
The excuses given for the litany of things it goes on to disavow amount to little more than imagining that the people who bought said garbage were essentially ignorant savages, incapable of understanding something as "complicated" as the "truth". It was very common, at the time, to imagine things like this. Gentile bigotry - the folks espousing it (and I grant them this) probably didn't even realize it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: God Loves Me, Too
April 5, 2013 at 12:08 am
So now we're nasty. Nasty can be fun
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