Most so called Christians have invented their own "God" that they worship

[TheGoodwillingAtheist]

Ever wondered why when Christians refer to God he often represents exactly the same values they stand for? Perhaps they have read they whole bible and analysed the Christian/Judeo God to determine what his moral stances are and thus found themselves agreeing with God on everything. This seems very unlikely and may apply to a minority of "wacky" Christians. Rather the God that these Christians claim to worship is one they have invented themselves. They have fine tuned the idea of God given to them by the churches to conform with their own outlook on the world. So you have to ask yourself, is it really the Christian/Judeo God that they are worshiping?

To me God is exactly how he is read in the bible. A psychopathic douche bag that gets pissed off when people start to show him less attention. He constantly needs his ego boosted by worship, so much so that he will cause destruction if he doesn't get enough praise for being "good". I think if many of these Christians as they call themselves would actually bother to read a bible for themselves then they'd see that God certainly does not share the same world view as them.

It seems to me that many Christians would be better defined as monotheists. Monotheism is defined as, "The doctrine or belief that there is only one God." However there is also an element of polytheism in those Christians that believe in a literal Satan. Polytheism is defined as, "The worship of or belief in more than one god." Certainly the power status of Satan in the bible reflects that of a god so it seems fair to classify him as so. Believing in multiple gods does not require that you worship all of them. This is known as Henotheism which is defined as, "Adherence to one particular god out of several."

If anyone has any thoughts to share about this then feel free to comment what you think. This is something that I have noticed for quite some time and felt it was worth writing about. If only more people would come out as Atheist rather than clinging to this concept of God that is a dead cause.

[Rayaan]

Most so called Christians have invented their own "God" that they worship

Does that mean that they are not true Christians, then?


Welcome to the forum.

[Angrboda]

I think you would do well to read what has come before regarding theories of religion instead of attempting to create your image of religion ex nihilo in the same way that many create their image of god.

[bladevalant546]

Let us take a step back for a second and examine the Theistic Christian God. So far this god has these qualities.

1. God has perfect Morals.
2.God has infintite wisdom and knowledge or at least perfect knowledge/wisdom.
3.He is infallible.
4.He is all knowing.
5.All powerful (at least according to us)
6.And is technically everywhere or all emcompassing.

I am sure there are a few I might be missing, however those are the general concepts. Now with all those qualties there is no chance that one could even relate to such a being. In fact no one here can truely understand what perfect means. Once you reach a stage what is perfect you will obviously see improvement somewhere. Now how this relates to the topic, I think it relates simply they create their definition of God which basically they can relate to the best. Since this being unlike a lover, parents or family, or close friends whom you can relate. God who seems to never talk physically, touch physically, or even let you see him physically. Who is also beyond you intellectual understanding, even conceptually beyond you, I feel that in order for the mind to cope with the total lack of emotional and physical connection. Much like (I cannot believe i am admitting this after years of debating against it) an imaginary friend, you create a concept that you can relate to.

[TheGoodwillingAtheist]

Most so called Christians have invented their own "God" that they worship

Does that mean that they are not true Christians, then?


Welcome to the forum.

I'd say that many of them identify as Christian but in practice aren't really Christian If you understand what I mean.

Thanks

[Minimalist]

Ever wondered why when Christians refer to God he often represents exactly the same values they stand for?

No. Never.

The answer is too obvious.

"You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image, when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do."

--Anne Lamott

[TheGoodwillingAtheist]

I think you would do well to read what has come before regarding theories of religion instead of attempting to create your image of religion ex nihilo in the same way that many create their image of god.

My intention was not to brush all Christians under the same brush as such but rather to highlight that though many people identify as being Christian, they aren't really Christian in practice. I know its not life or death stuff but it is a bit annoying when people are claiming moral superiority by attaching this label of Christianity to themselves.

Hope that clarifies what I meant

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Ever wondered why when Christians refer to God he often represents exactly the same values they stand for?

No. Never.

The answer is too obvious.

"You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image, when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do."

--Anne Lamott

You got it in a nutshell lol

[Rayaan]

So, if they aren't really Christian in practice, what particular things (or beliefs) would qualify them as real Christians?

Or what are they lacking right now?

[goodnews]

Its not true, most of todays "christiandom" does not believe in ONE GOD , They believe the heresy of the trinity { The Father The Son and The Holy Spirit } They believe all three are one ??? so there you have it most Christians are not theists, but have three Gods . I dont wish to explain this as it gives me a headache ps: Its Gods plan for you to be an atheist at this time, when it is His will, you will search Him out .

[TheGoodwillingAtheist]

Let us take a step back for a second and examine the Theistic Christian God. So far this god has these qualities.

1. God has perfect Morals.
2.God has infintite wisdom and knowledge or at least perfect knowledge/wisdom.
3.He is infallible.
4.He is all knowing.
5.All powerful (at least according to us)
6.And is technically everywhere or all emcompassing.

I am sure there are a few I might be missing, however those are the general concepts. Now with all those qualties there is no chance that one could even relate to such a being. In fact no one here can truely understand what perfect means. Once you reach a stage what is perfect you will obviously see improvement somewhere. Now how this relates to the topic, I think it relates simply they create their definition of God which basically they can relate to the best. Since this being unlike a lover, parents or family, or close friends whom you can relate. God who seems to never talk physically, touch physically, or even let you see him physically. Who is also beyond you intellectual understanding, even conceptually beyond you, I feel that in order for the mind to cope with the total lack of emotional and physical connection. Much like (I cannot believe i am admitting this after years of debating against it) an imaginary friend, you create a concept that you can relate to.

For a start I don't believe with this notion of perfect morals. Our morality has been developed over the years. For example, racism used to be socially acceptable and now it isn't and rightly so. Its not like we just gave black people their human rights. They had to fight hard for basic human rights. It is no longer acceptable to burn someone for being a witch as we know that is crazy. Soon in the future I hope that Gay marriage will be allowed and bigots will be called for what they are. Our developing morals allows for positive change in this way. God claiming perfect morality... I'm not so sure. According to the bible he flooded the world killing everyone except for Noah's family and two of every species. A mass genocide of this proportion would be considered evil by any person with a sound mind but when God does it, it's just?

If God has infinite knowledge and wisdom then he could immediately cure cancer and all serious diseases so that children do no need to ever be born into agonising pain from conditions they are born with or develop. By choosing not to do this he is allowing innocent children to needlessly suffer and die when he has the knowledge and wisdom to help them.

He is infallible... Tell that to all the starving children in Africa he fails to help.

All powerful... Well he clearly seems reluctant to use his power for any real purpose if he does have power.

If he is omnipresent then he has to be incompetent as with the ability to be everywhere at once carries the burden of choosing not to help those in dire need and thus taking blame for not helping them.

I don't believe in God but just pointing out the failure in logic around the idea of a personal God.