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RE: I have no morals.
May 13, 2013 at 10:38 am
Yeah, Romans 2:14-15
Quote:14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)
"Written on their hearts" would suggest that at least the author of Romans believes that somewhere on the flesh of our blood pump doth reside a weighty tomb of knowledge that leads us toward righteousness and goodness! I'll have to tear mine out to read the words. 
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May 13, 2013 at 12:29 pm
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(May 13, 2013 at 5:15 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I like how the answer (provided by Chad and catty) is ignored  It gets tiring, calling out christian bullshit, but I see Rhizo beat me to it, so I guess you have no room to bitch on that count anymore eh? I find it amusing that in orer to tease something meaningful from the narrative..even the faithful have to wrench away the magic, like heart-writing. See, we're not so different, you don't believe in your fairy tales either.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I have no morals.
May 13, 2013 at 12:43 pm
Why would the laws be written upon an organ which does nothing except circulate blood?
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RE: I have no morals.
May 13, 2013 at 12:49 pm
(May 13, 2013 at 5:15 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I like how the answer (provided by Chad and catty) is ignored
As non-controversial. Of course the Christians who don't think we need religion to be moral aren't a problem for us. Good peeps, mostly.
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RE: I have no morals.
May 13, 2013 at 12:51 pm
PS yes I know it was meant figuratively and probably refers to the holy spirit's guidance through the figurative "heart" so we all really have no reason to plead ignorance of morals.
I figured this out by quickly ripping our my heart; turns out it will kill you. Don't worry though I super glued it back in.
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May 13, 2013 at 1:04 pm
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Was it meant figuratively? I think you mean that most folks today -take it- figuratively. Amusingy, this was not always the case, because, as we all know, some people throughout history have been regrettably ignorant of anatomy and biology. Confoundingly, the faithful have represented this group in a pretty reliable manner...I say confoundingly, because you'd be forgiven for imagining that the creator of the human machine might have clued the authors in when they were penning their "inspired verses".
"Uh, hey Joe, don't write that, I don't want to give people the wrong idea here, and you're kind of representing me-what I;m trying to say is fairly important, okay? Lets be thorough"
Nope.....nope, not on the docket then or today.....
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I have no morals.
May 13, 2013 at 1:21 pm
Well, that figurative interpretation makes a strong case that the OP's theists are being morons and ignoring their bible when accusing atheists of having no morals. In this case I just found the literal interpretation to be amusing. The theists in this thread are helping to show that theists should never claim that we have no moral guidance. We DO have guidance according to Romans 2:14-15.
I would beg to differ though, I think our guidance comes from what we have been exposed to through our lives. Our morals, more or less, conform to the society in which we were raised and there are very few things that are true across all cultures. Off the top of my head, sex with relatives, and eating the dead are two morally reprehensible things that almost all cultures can agree on, but even those aren't true across literally all cultures.
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May 13, 2013 at 1:24 pm
"Ignoring their bibles" is hardly the mark of a moron..lol, hell they're almost acting like intelligent human beings if we ignore their unfortunate conclusions, but I get what you're driving at.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I have no morals.
May 13, 2013 at 1:24 pm
"written on your heart" means it's inbuilt in all humans... a basic moral understanding.
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RE: I have no morals.
May 13, 2013 at 1:28 pm
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Atta boy Frodo, scrub away all that icky miracle garbage, wouldn't want to have to smell your own bullshit.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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