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I have no morals.
#21
RE: I have no morals.
(May 13, 2013 at 1:24 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: "written on your heart" means it's inbuilt in all humans... a basic moral understanding.

Then, what do we need religion for?
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#22
RE: I have no morals.
Basic morals then made complete by God. That do it for you?
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#23
RE: I have no morals.
When did that happen, how was it achieved, which set of morals and what god?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#24
RE: I have no morals.
Why didn't God make them complete right from the start?
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#25
RE: I have no morals.
Because without freedom, there is no love, and without love, there is no freedom Ryan.
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#26
RE: I have no morals.
(May 13, 2013 at 2:32 pm)Ryantology Wrote:
(May 13, 2013 at 1:24 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: "written on your heart" means it's inbuilt in all humans... a basic moral understanding.

Then, what do we need religion for?

You may like what has been written in Jeremiah 31:30-34 and James 1:27. Tell your friends, tell your enemies, tell anyone who insists that you must believe as they do.
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#27
RE: I have no morals.
Then, why give us any freedom-restricting morals to start with?
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#28
RE: I have no morals.
(May 13, 2013 at 5:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Because without freedom, there is no love, and without love, there is no freedom Ryan.
Platitude.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#29
RE: I have no morals.
Truth Rhythm. Rational solution to the problem.

(May 13, 2013 at 5:48 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Then, why give us any freedom-restricting morals to start with?

Read it again Ryan... already answered.
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#30
RE: I have no morals.
Rational according to what?

I've heard 'free will' often described as 'freedom to not do what god wants'. It seems to me that freedom and love (in the sense that slavish devotion is love) are mutually-exclusive in God's eyes. Either you love him and do what he tells you, or you enjoy the freedom to live for yourself (in the process not loving God).
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