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Young as 6 raped by troops in Congo who fled M23
#11
RE: Young as 6 raped by troops in Congo who fled M23
Fucking Africa.

Lack of education meets bigotry, racism, hunger, and destitution. A place where the first guy who learns to read can ply the minds of the stupids to do whatever he wishes. Surprise surprise, most of the continent is a shithole.
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#12
RE: Young as 6 raped by troops in Congo who fled M23
Typical sub-saharan behaviour. No proper religion, no morals. Most of these animals would be executed if they lived in any of the Muslim countries in Africa. Their practices deserve the death penalty. I'll always wonder why the Ummayyads didn't move south instead of heading to Europe.
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RE: Young as 6 raped by troops in Congo who fled M23
Quote: I'll always wonder why the Ummayyads didn't move south instead of heading to Europe.

Because they were fucking social climbers.
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RE: Young as 6 raped by troops in Congo who fled M23
(May 13, 2013 at 11:33 pm)cratehorus Wrote:
(May 12, 2013 at 8:14 am)festive1 Wrote: You say this as if M23 hasn't committed any atrocities in their own right. They have: http://www.hrw.org/news/2012/09/11/dr-co...war-crimes
When any group resorts to mass rapes, forced recruitment, or attacks on civilians, they lose all claim to the moral high ground, IMO.
M23 doesn't want the mining rights for the good of the Congolese people, they want them to fund their own agenda. The West and China are backing the government because DRC has the richest, untapped natural resources on the planet, and they want access to those resources. It's the old story of, "Sure they're assholes, but they're OUR assholes." That has played out throughout history. Doesn't justify it or make it right, but here we are, backing dispicable people out of a larger group of equally dispicable people.

well you can say the same thing against america and it's war against the afghans, american troops have committed mass rapes, and murders of innocent civilians.. it just revolves around who you support, it seems the wars amongst the multiple territories in the congo is between the american and western governrments against the rwandan national government, so who do you support............. festive?

Given Rwanda's repressive regime (like Eritrea it's totalitarian), if forced to choose, I'd have to go with the democratically elected (kinda, the elections have been problematic) DRC government. I don't like either side. Imperfect solutions for an imperfect world.
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RE: Young as 6 raped by troops in Congo who fled M23
(May 14, 2013 at 1:32 am)mo66 Wrote: No proper religion, no morals.

What, pray tell, is a "proper" religion?
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RE: Young as 6 raped by troops in Congo who fled M23
(May 14, 2013 at 8:55 am)rexbeccarox Wrote:
(May 14, 2013 at 1:32 am)mo66 Wrote: No proper religion, no morals.

What, pray tell, is a "proper" religion?

His, of course.
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(May 14, 2013 at 8:55 am)rexbeccarox Wrote:
(May 14, 2013 at 1:32 am)mo66 Wrote: No proper religion, no morals.

What, pray tell, is a "proper" religion?

A lot of these people are usually spiritual, believe in spirits, totems and all that junk, the building blocks of religion before they invent a god.
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RE: Young as 6 raped by troops in Congo who fled M23
(May 14, 2013 at 9:35 am)frz Wrote:
(May 14, 2013 at 8:55 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: What, pray tell, is a "proper" religion?

A lot of these people are usually spiritual, believe in spirits, totems and all that junk, the building blocks of religion before they invent a god.

DRC is 96% Christian, the majority being Catholic... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_..._the_Congo
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RE: Young as 6 raped by troops in Congo who fled M23
(May 14, 2013 at 12:05 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(May 13, 2013 at 11:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The only items on the menu are shit and a shit sandwich? I think I'll skip a meal or walk next door to the next restaurant. You're invited Festive, this place is a dive anyway.....

No doubt, war is a shit sandwich. Any claim to moral high ground is quickly lost after the hostilities begin. Has there been any conflict in history where there weren't atrocities committed by all sides involved? I doubt it. Even worse is when the chain of command turns a blind eye to it all, or even encourages it.
You're right. All countries at war have people committing war crimes but there is something sinister about the war crimes in Sub Saharan Africa which is more disturbing than the rest (probably aside from what happened in Chile and what the Soviets did in WW2). Throwing bucket loads of cash at Africa is not going to instill morals in these people, it just provides them with more weapons to carry out unspeakable crimes.

There was a case of a girl raped by so many men that her rescuers couldn't tell which side of her was her buttocks or her frontal genitals. These people need morality imposed upon them by force if necessary.
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RE: Young as 6 raped by troops in Congo who fled M23
Pro-tip, if you look up and see a face, generally not the ass-side (and if, by chance, you do happen to look up and see a face on the ass side, you're not a rescuer, but a recoverer - of a body). Imposing morality by force is counterintuitive - if imposition of concepts by force features as a negative in that morality. I mean honestly, forcing someone to do what you want is exactly what's already going down here - how would more of that help? The idea behind foreign aide is that by funneling funds to acceptable channels we might be able to remove the local populaces reliance on whatever elements we deem as unacceptable by affording them some freedom in basic services (and often protection). Oppressive regimes thrive on poverty and misery, and so alleviating that would seem to be a good idea - that's laying aside the simple urge to help. Not saying that this always or even often turns out very well or works as intended- but the alternative is often to simply sit back and watch while people wither. At the end of the day, and this is just my opinion - if you simply cannot dis-entrench those unacceptable elements it makes very little sense to punish the gp for your failure in that regard...and so even if you know that a portion of that aide falls into "the wrong hands" it;s difficult to stop sending it.

Mind you, I rail against this all the time, but deep deep down, I couldn't be the guy that said "nope, cut the funds".
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