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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 18, 2013 at 8:00 pm
This is not a lost of time.
Why this is not a lost of time ?
1.In the past (Christianity in Europe , Hinduism in India , Islam in Ottoman Empire etc..) influenced the different systems (economical , political , social etc...).
2.Today (may/19/2013) Christianity has an influence in USA , Islam has an influence in the Muslims countries like Afghanistan and Judaism has influence in Israel.
3.You will understand better things about human societies.
You wrote "But what will it achieve at the end?" see 1,2 and 3.
You wrote "Do any of the religions of an action plan of how to implement justice in society? Maybe in the primitive past, they did, but not when things are getting complicated, what is their use?" this question is very complicated because I can't see that with a binary vision.
You wrote "It's one thing to say my religion teaches to rise up for justice. But how to go even implementing that?" Can you define the word justice ? because this word has a definition who don't have the same sense in the 21th century and the 20th century etc...
You wrote "Most people of every religion aren't aware of arguments against their religion and counter arguments etc...and they haven't thought too much about the issue." We can say the same for some politicians because the majority of people can't accept to be critiqued.
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 18, 2013 at 8:03 pm
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(May 17, 2013 at 11:05 pm)ebg Wrote: I doubt very seriously you have actually read the bible from beginning to end. Probable, your education is based on a couple of years in community college, and wekpedia.
My mobile is better than yours! I bet you never even read the manual back to back, and you've only had a cell phone a couple years. /scoffs
I'm on my mobile most the time and I can still spell proof a condescending post about another's education requisites to make sure I don't look like an idiot.
Just sayin..
(May 17, 2013 at 11:12 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Hi, luckie's fiancee here; she actually really has read the bible cover to cover. She was very religious at one point in her life, church going, faith healing, god following... you name it. So, hey, I dunno, maybe actually know what you're talking about before you make broad statements, ebg.
(May 18, 2013 at 8:32 am)goodnews Wrote: Yeah, but at least the stories in Shakespeare's plays would be more engaging and interesting than the Babble.
Do you not yet know, Shakespear primary literary source was the Scriptures.
Did you not yet not know yet that Shakespeare never finished grammar school?
WHO GIVES A FUCK? Seriously goodnews, yet again no news is better than your useless news.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 18, 2013 at 8:09 pm
(May 18, 2013 at 8:32 am)goodnews Wrote: Yeah, but at least the stories in Shakespeare's plays would be more engaging and interesting than the Babble.
Do you not yet know, Shakespear primary literary source was the Scriptures.
Do you ever know what the fuck you are talking about, jesus-boy, or do you just shoot your fucking mouth off without knowing that the bullshit you spout can be checked out?
http://www.pbs.org/shakespeare/educators...depth.html
Quote:Most - not all, but most - of Shakespeare's plots can be traced to contemporary works of narrative fiction, historical chronicles (both prose and verse), other plays, or some combination thereof. As an example, let us consider Giraldi Cinthio's collection of stories, "Gli Hecatommithi" (1565), one of which provides the basic narrative source for the plot of "Othello."
Fucking jesus deserves fuckheads like you for followers.
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 18, 2013 at 8:12 pm
It's like we're talking to these guys. Only these guys can actually spell.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 18, 2013 at 8:27 pm
More like talking to these guys.....
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 18, 2013 at 8:31 pm
(This post was last modified: May 18, 2013 at 9:38 pm by Mystical.)
Or..
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 20, 2013 at 12:20 am
Actually - researching religion shows how religions evolved from ONE ANOTHER over time - and the fact that this DID happen is hard to deny. As nations absorbed or put others into bondage - religions changed to add the newest feature of the religions to keep them "current".
Now - if YOU ignore the obvious deception of religion - the history of religion is NOT a history of gods - but it IS a history of the Governance of humans - and the history of the Law of humans as well. THAT is what early religion was - a way to keep the masses of uneducated people in line when you had no other way to communicate with them. PUT a mythical creature above them and tell them what to do - and they more or less obeyed.
Education is what allowed science to prove that the "mythical" basis of religion is nonsense - and as more and more people get educated - less and less people believe their religion even if they stay in them/ - but what replaced religion is other forms of governance - with the people more represented in many cases.
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 20, 2013 at 4:37 am
Your pain is evident, as truth hurts, and here is why, / For the word of God is quick, and powerfull, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Hebrews 4:12
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 20, 2013 at 4:37 am
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(May 18, 2013 at 8:32 am)goodnews Wrote: Do you not yet know, Shakespear primary literary source was the Scriptures. What do you mean?
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 20, 2013 at 11:14 am
(May 18, 2013 at 12:34 am)Esquilax Wrote: You know, ebg... fucking up your quote tags isn't actually helping your image, there... You aren't coming out of this looking like a genius...
An almost impossible task for bible-thumpers anyway.
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