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RE: Homosexuality is a sin? Well, Xtians, what about these other 76 things?
May 28, 2013 at 10:32 am
Make that small s socialist festive and you will do ok I am thinking.
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May 28, 2013 at 1:17 pm
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May 28, 2013 at 1:31 pm
Or as I see it, all sane nations of the world could unite to form a better, re-imagined UN, with teeth, to police global capitalist corruption, global climate change mandates, various conflicts, prevent super-powers like the US from attacking countries that pose us no threat (ie: Iraq), combat global poverty (which by comparison makes US poverty seem laughable, though its not), etc...
This is an interesting topic... If you start a new thread on it, I'll follow  But we're derailing the current subject.
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May 28, 2013 at 4:06 pm
(May 28, 2013 at 1:31 pm)festive1 Wrote: Or as I see it, all sane nations of the world could unite to form a better, re-imagined UN, with teeth, to police global capitalist corruption, global climate change mandates, various conflicts, prevent super-powers like the US from attacking countries that pose us no threat (ie: Iraq), combat global poverty (which by comparison makes US poverty seem laughable, though its not), etc...
This is an interesting topic... If you start a new thread on it, I'll follow But we're derailing the current subject.
I hate stuff like this because I tend to become alittle too apophenic, and we already have one of those on AF.org. Meaning I start seeing the appearently random patterns in world events and start ascribing revelational meaning to them. (How the end of the world will play out according to current eventualities in possible world events.) I did this once already in my 12-21-12 thread. When I do one of these I scare myself and yet feel very obligated to share, which makes me look crazier than I actually am. So, thanks but no thanks. But if You or anyone else starts a thread like that I will say I will read it.
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May 28, 2013 at 4:29 pm
I can see your point... A huge global power... That is kinda scary. With great power comes great responsibility, and hopefully checks and balances too!
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May 28, 2013 at 5:00 pm
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(May 28, 2013 at 4:19 am)Godschild Wrote: I was not speaking of His consistency being a definition of good, it's a good thing though.
Is it? Tyrants, in particular, tend to be very consistent people.
Quote:I qualified who God is before that and, with Him being unchanging sets up the perfect standard for man. Why do you constantly leave out things I say, is it just to have something to say even though it's not relevant.
I saw no reason to trust your qualification.
GC Wrote:His righteousness is what will determine the punishment nonbeliever will be judged by, sounds pretty important to me.
Quote:How, I mean how can you possibly mention Stalin as righteous, that's crazy dude. There are no victims with God, His judgement is completely just.
I can't. But, Stalin certainly thought he was righteous and just, which to him meant satisfying his personal desires. God thinks he's righteous and just, which to him means satisfying his personal desires. As a Christian, you are taught that selfishness is a virtue, but only for God, and only because he said so. It's the same message the Soviets were spoonfed sixty years ago, though not quite so directly. It's also worth noting that to Stalin, there were no victims, there were only people who deserved to die. If you think one is just, you have to think the other is just. Otherwise, you're just specially pleading for the guy you happen to like better.
Quote:Before you said you implied you had a good understanding of the Bible, but now you don't, which is it? The problem with your cognitive reasoning is one thing, you read the Bible with an intended bias.
I do not agree with your conceit that your understanding of the Bible is in any way more accurate than mine. You read it with a huge bias, as you accept everything in it at face value and question nothing. If you read it without that bias, it is what it is: a nightmare of horrors.
GC Wrote:Nothing funny about that much evil in the world. By the way we're still here, He left this family to continue the human race, they were the only believers left. God judges evil and will do something about it.
Like Hitler, Stalin, or any other successful omnicidal maniac, God justifies his mass murders by claiming his victims are evil. Yet, he did not single out the evil ones. He killed men, women, children, newborn infants, so many people who could not have possibly understood the concept of evil much less committed any, indiscriminately and without remorse. When slighted by the Pharoah in Exodus, who does God kill in response? Firstborn children. Thousands upon thousands of people, young and old, all of whom had absolutely nothing to do with the Pharaoh or his actions. Your God is evil, and you are evil for glorifying him and making excuses for his crimes. At least, it would be so if any of this actually happened. Though, the fact that you believe it really happened and you're okay with it being real still makes you a really slimy human being.
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May 28, 2013 at 10:57 pm
(May 28, 2013 at 4:29 pm)festive1 Wrote: I can see your point... A huge global power... That is kinda scary. With great power comes great responsibility, and hopefully checks and balances too!
I guess we will see. As we are indeed headed down that path.
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