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"I'm a Christian but I don't believe in religion."
#11
RE: "I'm a Christian but I don't believe in religion."
I've heard this too. It's yet another dance step to add to the christian shuffle. One more slogan/bumper sticker/sales pitch to add to the repertoire. Most of the christians I bump into, this is about all they can do, repeat the sales pitch. If I press them further, they usually start talking about the weather.
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#12
RE: "I'm a Christian but I don't believe in religion."
We have one or two of them here, don't we? If I am not mistaken, enrico and goodnews eschew religion for a direct personal relationship with god, Jesus, or "the spiritual." Some people abandon religion because they're at odds with a particular teaching or doctrine(s); they still believe in god or Jesus, but are soured by their experiences with religion and decide that Jesus didn't want no religion after all. Which strikes me as another case of shaping your beliefs to fit your circumstances.

I've seen others state that the Bible doesn't support the idea of an earthly organization or congregation, and that Christians were meant to be a sort of loose association bound by their acceptance of Christ's sacrifice. Which means that in addition to the tens of thousands of different denominations of Christianity, you have countless additional "personal relationships with god" to contend with.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#13
RE: "I'm a Christian but I don't believe in religion."
Quote:enrico and goodnews eschew religion for a direct personal relationship with god


Egotistical fuckers, aren't they.
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#14
RE: "I'm a Christian but I don't believe in religion."
I've heard various (moronic) people claim that Christianity isn't really a religion. It's a relationship with god or some trap-clap. Must be nice to just be able to make up your own definitions for everything.
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RE: "I'm a Christian but I don't believe in religion."
Once again, Sam Harris has made the most damning indictment of this particular bit of fundie stupidity.

Quote:There is, in fact, no worldview more reprehensible in its arrogance than that of a religious believer: the creator of the universe takes an interest in me, approves of me, loves me, and will reward me after death; my current beliefs, drawn from scripture, will remain the best statement of the truth until the end of the world; everyone who disagrees with me will spend eternity in hell.

--Sam Harris Letter to a Christian Nation
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RE: "I'm a Christian but I don't believe in religion."
(May 21, 2013 at 9:35 am)tokutter Wrote: I've heard this too. It's yet another dance step to add to the christian shuffle. One more slogan/bumper sticker/sales pitch to add to the repertoire. Most of the christians I bump into, this is about all they can do, repeat the sales pitch. If I press them further, they usually start talking about the weather.

Haha this is so true I've sat with Christians while they discuss how to get people to go to church and they literally say things like "you have to sell Christianity, make them want what you have in Jesus or their never gonna take it"

It's like they know that their trying to sell bullshit no one needs
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#17
RE: "I'm a Christian but I don't believe in religion."
(May 21, 2013 at 11:31 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: I've heard various (moronic) people claim that Christianity isn't really a religion. It's a relationship with god or some trap-clap. Must be nice to just be able to make up your own definitions for everything.
Makes me feel hopeful, though, that even believers are now moving away from the term "religion". I hope it shows that dogma is in decline.
"Men see clearly enough the barbarity of all ages — except their own!" — Ernest Crosby.
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#18
RE: "I'm a Christian but I don't believe in religion."
(May 20, 2013 at 6:54 pm)swata224 Wrote: "I'm a Christian and I have a relationship with Christ but I don't believe in religion."

This is a direct quote from one of the RA's in my residential college today.
I think by religion she's talking about the rules and regulations of religion, yet she follows those rules ie. goes to church every Sunday, says Grace before every meal etc.
I'm just wanting a bit of help deciphering what motive would be behind this oxymoronic statement, and maybe a bit of insight into why someone would believe this?

Thanks everyone! Smile
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It's been my experience that no two people have the same religion, they all have their of personal view. The will have a basic foundation but they build their own faith as it were.
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#19
RE: "I'm a Christian but I don't believe in religion."
A rational, informed person must despise religion- and hate it because it is the most destructive cultural force in man's history. However, it is unjustified to blame (& reject) God because of religion. Religionists (not merely Jews) killed Christ, thinking that they were serving God. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater!

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#20
RE: "I'm a Christian but I don't believe in religion."
(May 20, 2013 at 7:34 pm)apophenia Wrote:


It tickles me no end to see the enormity of effort Christians put into distancing themselves from Christianity.

It would seem obvious to a person of reasonable intelligence that if you have an Albatross tied round your neck, running away isn't going to accomplish much of anything; you must cast off the foul thing altogether.

(Geek point: "Way I remember it, albatross was a ship's good luck... til some idiot killed it.")




I believe it's more them trying to distance themselves from orthodoxy (aka the strict rules from the Catholics, etc.) than Christianity.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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