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RE: Is it normal to destroy people who get in your way in life?
May 28, 2013 at 1:54 pm
(May 28, 2013 at 12:26 pm)dazzn Wrote: yet nobody can answer that society in contemporary times stresses a personal moral system?
You have yet to provide any evidence that it does.
(May 28, 2013 at 12:26 pm)dazzn Wrote: or are you suggesting the belief in moral absolutes return?
Regardless of whether their basis lies in any sort of actual absolutes, society sets absolutes for moral standards. You may choose to ignore this, of course, but you will eventually be segregated with others that do the same.
(May 28, 2013 at 12:26 pm)dazzn Wrote: most men my age merely determine their personal morals and act accordingly.
Evidence?
Regardless, I highly doubt that people act simply by their own morals. People behave mostly based on the consequences of their actions. Those that choose to ignore those consequences do so at their own peril. For instance, one of these days, when you're out pushing little girls like the tough guy you are, one of those girls is going to have a giant brother that is a black belt in kung fu standing next to her, and he is going to feed your head to your asshole. And since you chose to behave as you wished and ignored the consequences, no one will shed a tear.
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RE: Is it normal to destroy people who get in your way in life?
May 28, 2013 at 1:59 pm
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2013 at 2:01 pm by dazzn.)
lol..
so people in modern society don't believe that morals are tenuous, or that they're subjective?
people don't believe that we choose our own moral codes? as for little girl, she was about 21, hardly a child.
Evidence?
I'd presume no surveys have been conducted. However, I'd imagine a high percentage of persons born in the late 20th/early 21st century endorse transient and non-objective morals.
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RE: Is it normal to destroy people who get in your way in life?
May 28, 2013 at 2:12 pm
Sounds to me like you're looking for excuses to do whatever the hell you want, and projecting your idea of a moral-less society on the rest of us.
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RE: Is it normal to destroy people who get in your way in life?
May 28, 2013 at 2:48 pm
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2013 at 2:48 pm by Faith No More.)
(May 28, 2013 at 1:59 pm)dazzn Wrote: society don't believe that morals are tenuous, or that they're subjective?
Who said that?
Your claim was that society stresses a personal moral system. Evidence?
(May 28, 2013 at 1:59 pm)dazzn Wrote: people don't believe that we choose our own moral codes?
Who said that?
(May 28, 2013 at 1:59 pm)dazzn Wrote: as for little girl, she was about 21, hardly a child.
Whatever lets you sleep at night...
(May 28, 2013 at 1:59 pm)dazzn Wrote: Evidence?
I'd presume no surveys have been conducted. However, I'd imagine a high percentage of persons born in the late 20th/early 21st century endorse transient and non-objective morals.
So, in other words, you are once again just pulling shit out of your ass and asserting it as fact. That seems to be your M.O.
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RE: Is it normal to destroy people who get in your way in life?
May 28, 2013 at 8:24 pm
(May 28, 2013 at 11:04 am)dazzn Wrote: Why do we need to accommodate people who get in our way, and frankly deny us our freedom? Is your freedom so precious that you would deny others their freedom?
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RE: Is it normal to destroy people who get in your way in life?
May 28, 2013 at 8:43 pm
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2013 at 8:48 pm by Gilgamesh.)
(May 28, 2013 at 11:04 am)dazzn Wrote: Why do we need to accommodate people who get in our way, and frankly deny us our freedom? We don't.
Quote:the point is though, this is denial in a literal sense. But the same applies in a figurative context also. Who says we cannot do as we please to persons who deny what we want?
The security, apparently.
You can do whatever you please to whoever you want, but given what you do to people, other people will do as they please to you. We already live in your ideal society, you just haven't acknowledged that the 'repercussions' of your actions are simply others doing as they please to you.
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RE: Is it normal to destroy people who get in your way in life?
May 28, 2013 at 8:49 pm
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2013 at 8:50 pm by dazzn.)
(May 28, 2013 at 8:24 pm)Sal Wrote: (May 28, 2013 at 11:04 am)dazzn Wrote: Why do we need to accommodate people who get in our way, and frankly deny us our freedom? Is your freedom so precious that you would deny others their freedom?
perhaps. though there are limits to freedom.
(May 28, 2013 at 8:43 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote: (May 28, 2013 at 11:04 am)dazzn Wrote: Why do we need to accommodate people who get in our way, and frankly deny us our freedom? We don't.
Quote:the point is though, this is denial in a literal sense. But the same applies in a figurative context also. Who says we cannot do as we please to persons who deny what we want?
The security, apparently.
You can do whatever you please to whoever you want, but given what you do to people, other people will do as they please to you. We already live in your ideal society, you just haven't acknowledged that the 'repercussions' of your actions are simply others doing as they please to you.
an ideal society that most in our generation value. including you. most of your posts centre on "anything goes".
(May 28, 2013 at 8:43 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote: (May 28, 2013 at 11:04 am)dazzn Wrote: Why do we need to accommodate people who get in our way, and frankly deny us our freedom? We don't.
Quote:the point is though, this is denial in a literal sense. But the same applies in a figurative context also. Who says we cannot do as we please to persons who deny what we want?
The security, apparently.
You can do whatever you please to whoever you want, but given what you do to people, other people will do as they please to you. We already live in your ideal society, you just haven't acknowledged that the 'repercussions' of your actions are simply others doing as they please to you.
an ideal society that most in our generation value. including you. most of your posts centre on "anything goes".
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RE: Is it normal to destroy people who get in your way in life?
May 28, 2013 at 8:51 pm
(May 28, 2013 at 11:21 am)dazzn Wrote: and? society says that anything goes, does it not?
Then why are there prisons?
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RE: Is it normal to destroy people who get in your way in life?
May 28, 2013 at 8:51 pm
(May 28, 2013 at 8:49 pm)dazzn Wrote: an ideal society that most in our generation value. including you. most of your posts centre on "anything goes". I don't follow. Can you reiterate?
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RE: Is it normal to destroy people who get in your way in life?
May 28, 2013 at 8:52 pm
(May 28, 2013 at 2:48 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (May 28, 2013 at 1:59 pm)dazzn Wrote: society don't believe that morals are tenuous, or that they're subjective?
Who said that?
Your claim was that society stresses a personal moral system. Evidence?
(May 28, 2013 at 1:59 pm)dazzn Wrote: people don't believe that we choose our own moral codes?
Who said that?
(May 28, 2013 at 1:59 pm)dazzn Wrote: as for little girl, she was about 21, hardly a child.
Whatever lets you sleep at night...
(May 28, 2013 at 1:59 pm)dazzn Wrote: Evidence?
I'd presume no surveys have been conducted. However, I'd imagine a high percentage of persons born in the late 20th/early 21st century endorse transient and non-objective morals.
So, in other words, you are once again just pulling shit out of your ass and asserting it as fact. That seems to be your M.O.
lulz.... so yeah, this is why society says morals are subjective.
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