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The Separation of Church and State
October 2, 2008 at 10:35 pm
(This Applies to the U.S.A)
I start this of by saying the following:
Gay Marriage should be 100% legal
This is true no matter who you are. Even if you HATE gays because god has condemned them and feels they are abominations. Well thats all well and good but here is the problem, "god" doesn't have any say in our goverment what so ever.
It's called the Separation of Church and State and it's in our United States Constitution. That is that. No further argument needs to be made. Not one for gay marriage, and not one against it.
Though I think we have all seen that the Separation of Church and State is total BS and it is unfortuantely not as strictly enforced as it should be.
But that's just the way I see it
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RE: The Separation of Church and State
October 3, 2008 at 11:45 am
I totally agree with you AtheistBassist the separation of church and state is a myth in the U.S. It's evident that it is only true on paper as an ammendment to the Constitution.But if one were to just look around they would quickly realize how Christianity has its grimy claw in everything.It has a powerful influence on U.S. politics,In God We Trust is printed on our currency and in our court room walls.It serves as a check for the sciences as well since they are being held back from moving forward on bs moralistic arguments that are religion based.
I believe that gays should be allowed to marry,also if you are going to have a kid you dont want then get an abortion.I am against everything religion has to say on any and all issues.
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RE: The Separation of Church and State
October 4, 2008 at 12:57 am
It's scary to think about isn't it? It pains me to see this country in such a state and to know that it more thank likely will be for it's entire lifespan.
I agree with your stance on abortion also, but I didn't want to bring that up because I actually know atheist that have a problems with it for other reasons, but yes I agree.
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RE: The Separation of Church and State
October 6, 2008 at 10:50 am
(This post was last modified: October 6, 2008 at 10:53 am by StewartP.)
Secularism is ironically vital for the protection of religious freedom.
Here is a
list of secular states
I think I am right in saying that Turkey is the only country with a Muslim majority and fully democratic.
It is also secular
Coincidence? I think not.
'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? Jer 8:8
A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five. Groucho Marx
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RE: The Separation of Church and State
October 6, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Here's a good quote on the subject:
"I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin.
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RE: The Separation of Church and State
October 6, 2008 at 9:40 pm
(This post was last modified: October 6, 2008 at 9:41 pm by AtheistBassist.)
(October 6, 2008 at 10:50 am)StewartP Wrote: Secularism is ironically vital for the protection of religious freedom.
Yes if you take a look around in this modern age,
just about any country that is non secular does not thrive in any shape or form. The united states isn't truly secular therefore it is in the condition it is currently in. Oh and if you don't think the U.S.A is in shit right now, pull your head out of your ass and take a good look around.
But that's just the way I see it
