XBox One sucks

[Gilgamesh]

I would expect that's it's partially for a reason similar to why you're commenting in a game thread, in a gaming subforum, when you don't play games.

As for the rest, it has to do with the fact that we like games, and hate the fact that the newest generation of consoles are completely full of fail. Kind of sucks, when the prior generation (you know, the ones that don't suck, or at least suck less) won't be getting new releases at some point.

That's why we care.

Why you cared enough to comment in the thread? I have no idea.

I love video-games and I still don't give a fuck about any of the new consoles. Consoles at this point only exist for the casual masses. If you take games seriously, get a PC or you're doing it wrong.

[Violet]

I love video-games and I still don't give a fuck about any of the new consoles. Consoles at this point only exist for the casual masses. If you take games seriously, get a PC or you're doing it wrong.

Some games simply suck on the PC (dragon age: O, as an example). Many of the better games, particularly older ones, are only available on a console (if you're avoiding piracy and emulation, or course). Ultimately, a console and a PC are just a few among the many varied ways to play games (whether they be video or otherwise is utterly unimportant and irrelevant).

And when it comes to gaming... if it's fun and competitive, it's done it right.

[Jackalope]

Likewise there's lots of cross-platform titles that suck on consoles. I play on both, and anyone that tells me I'm doing it wrong is perilously close to having a no true Scotsman shoved up his ass.

[Creed of Heresy]

lel u gilly and your no true scotty

Actually Gil's got a point. PC gaming is a lot more efficient and capable than console gaming is. The few times where a game was made for console and the PC port was inferior are, well, just that: Few. Very few in fact. The DA: O port to PC only sucked because the engine was old as fuck and they had never even planned on it being a PC release at any point anyways, they'd planned only on doing it for consoles. Lo and behold the PC version should suck dick, then. But in truth, most PC versions of console games beat the everliving fuck out of the console version. Battlefield 3? I've been playing it on console all the time it's been out, I just got it on PC with premium for $20 and holy fuck it's so much better on the PC I can't even BEGIN to tell you. Where I was once typically going 30 kills 7 deaths a match I'm now beating ass at 90+ kills and less than 10 deaths a match. Dishonored: Fun on console, wild ride on PC. Minecraft: PC. The 360 version just...ick. Skyrim: ...Ok, I admit I think the PC version is better only because I have Aela following me while dressed in nothing but a thong and metal bikini... Fallout 3/NV: Ermahgerrd the graphics u guiz on PC are so much better. Plus, devconsole saves your ass in those few remaining times the game glitches something out.

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No but serious business face time: EA's a giant market bubble that's going to burst and take out a huge portion of gaming with it. Activision stopped for the most part and decided to start seeking new titles and ideas out but EA's just rehashing the fuck out of everything now. Simcity wasn't even a new edition, it was considered to be a "reboot" of the FIRST Simcity. Seriously? Fuck you, EA. FUCK, YOU! You assholes ruin every fucking series I love, fuck off and die and I hope the terrorists fly a jumbo jet into your fucking office HQ you hacks.

[Violet]

Went to Mac a month after release. Several peeps called it 'pc game of da year' ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Age:_Origins ) apparently.

You are aware that it is set up damn near like Baldur's Gate... by the company that MADE Baldur's Gate... and that if your character didn't StopDPS every time it killed something (that is: auto-acquire new target): the only problem with the PC version would be getting through doors.

The battlefield issue sounds, to me, like one of personal preference. It just so happens that if I attempt to aim in an FPS with a mouse: I'm utter shit. Really, it has nothing to do with PCs or consoles being better... for anyone but me.

Dishonored is shit regardless

Minecraft I'll give you... but if the Xbox version *wasn't* limited and *could be modded*: then it would be my preference if I were a more casually-minded minecraft player.

I wouldn't enjoy skyrim on the PC as much, despite having access to 'console commands' and mods... I *need* a controller for it. Otherwise I get immersion breaks.

Graphical 'superiority' in a postapocalyptic gritty game? Okay... so I take it you didn't care for the setting? Fallout and Fallout 2 are great PC games (some would say better than 3); graphics have shit to do with whether a game is good or not. Embrace your inner save-happy-ninja.

Simcity's a largely graphical update

[Creed of Heresy]

No, Vae, FF13 is shit. Dishonored is "decent but not game of the year good." There IS a difference, you know. Gamers have a very strange, skewed sense of what is shit and what is merely suffering the crime of not being perfect. Dishonored operates perfectly fine, has replayability, decent graphics, an interesting art design, variety, and depth. Nothing in that damns it to being shit. The execution of the game, however, came up a bit short and seemed to promise more than it delivered, though it ultimately delivered enough to be entertaining.

So, no, it's not shit. You know what is shit by virtue of not being perfect, though? Skyrim. The dragon AI in that game is fucking terrible. What should have been epic encounters that should've had me on the edge of my seat ultimately ended up involving me just holding the right trigger down to power attack with my warhammer until the dragon fall over dead. Even with the difficulty cranked up, the challenge felt lackluster and I shouldn't need to crank the difficulty up to hard or higher to START feeling like I'm fighting, well, a fucking dragon, and not a giant soft-scaled lizard that can warm me up in the middle of a cold winter night or cool me off in a summer heat and occasionally nibbles too hard. Also those trees. Until the HD patch, those trees were baaad.

And actually I loved the atmospherics of Fallout 3. Not QUITE so much with New Vegas though NV definitely had its areas where the environments were really fuckin' good. I don't think FO1 or 2 are better games than 3 or NV, though, and I REALLY don't think Tactics or Brotherhood of Steel were better than any of the others. People seem to be under the misapprehension that graphics are the only things that have been improving in games. They're not. Stories are getting better, too. I defy someone to look back at Final Fantasy 7 and really try to maintain that it was a good story compared to some of the better works of modern gaming with a straight face. Good luck, you'll need it. Compared to modern storytelling, the characters are stale, dull, lifeless, and bland, the story is nonsensical and contradictory and flat-out just poorly-written, and the gameplay is slow, grinding, and tedious, lacking subtlety and all around not quite as fun as I remember it being when it was the best that gaming had to offer me in terms of all that I just mentioned. There's more improving in the medium than just graphics. Always remember that. Aesthetics alone do not change in culture.

I wouldn't even call it a graphical update. I would call it a graphical update and a massive step backwards in the franchise. You went from controlling entire complex megalopoli regions interconnected with one another through complex commuting networks and infrastructures...to a city that at its biggest will spike 200,000 if you REALLY fuck everything else off in exchange for that alone. Fucking BOOOOO.

[Violet]

No, Vae, FF13 is shit. Dishonored is "decent but not game of the year good." There IS a difference, you know. Gamers have a very strange, skewed sense of what is shit and what is merely suffering the crime of not being perfect. Dishonored operates perfectly fine, has replayability, decent graphics, an interesting art design, variety, and depth. Nothing in that damns it to being shit. The execution of the game, however, came up a bit short and seemed to promise more than it delivered, though it ultimately delivered enough to be entertaining.

Umm, yes: FF13 IS shit. Dishonored is bleh, I was being cute about it, hence the smile

FF13 has amazing graphics, an interesting art design, and variety. Doesn't save it from being a beautifully constructed... but utterly shit movie.

What damns dishonored to me? Gameplay, and not living up to its expectations. Like ME3: decent game, with some glaring faults (the ending, stick up ass walking and running animations). Except ME3 was awesome aside from those two things. Dishonored? Average in just about every respect. Some likable elements, good enough to have a cult following (ie: you), but overall it just accomplishes being an okay game

A bit short, you say? Very short, I say. Dishonored is entertaining shit.

So, no, it's not shit. You know what is shit by virtue of not being perfect, though? Skyrim. The dragon AI in that game is fucking terrible. What should have been epic encounters that should've had me on the edge of my seat ultimately ended up involving me just holding the right trigger down to power attack with my warhammer until the dragon fall over dead. Even with the difficulty cranked up, the challenge felt lackluster and I shouldn't need to crank the difficulty up to hard or higher to START feeling like I'm fighting, well, a fucking dragon, and not a giant soft-scaled lizard that can warm me up in the middle of a cold winter night or cool me off in a summer heat and occasionally nibbles too hard. Also those trees. Until the HD patch, those trees were baaad.

Welcome to casual influence on TES. How do you feel? I call them flying pigs... but then, I play Skyrim to roleplay and to explore. Playing skyrim for its combat system? It's harder to fail than it is to succeed... so much so that you probably won't be dying very much. Because dying (and reloading) feels bad, yo.

I wish essential NPCs were not so... essential. Morrowind got that much right. The trees of skyrim are awesome. I recommend you avoid oblivion, morrowind, and daggerfall, if you're a graphics-snob

The longer you know me... the more you'll find out that spectacle rarely impresses me.

And actually I loved the atmospherics of Fallout 3. Not QUITE so much with New Vegas though NV definitely had its areas where the environments were really fuckin' good. I don't think FO1 or 2 are better games than 3 or NV, though, and I REALLY don't think Tactics or Brotherhood of Steel were better than any of the others. People seem to be under the misapprehension that graphics are the only things that have been improving in games. They're not. Stories are getting better, too. I defy someone to look back at Final Fantasy 7 and really try to maintain that it was a good story compared to some of the better works of modern gaming with a straight face. Good luck, you'll need it. Compared to modern storytelling, the characters are stale, dull, lifeless, and bland, the story is nonsensical and contradictory and flat-out just poorly-written, and the gameplay is slow, grinding, and tedious, lacking subtlety and all around not quite as fun as I remember it being when it was the best that gaming had to offer me in terms of all that I just mentioned. There's more improving in the medium than just graphics. Always remember that. Aesthetics alone do not change in culture.

I love the atmosphere* of the Fallout series in general, and they did awesomely with Fallout 3. I think that 1, 2, and 3 are all very similarly amazing games. Misapprehension... wow, I had no idea you even knew that word. Congratulations

The stories are getting better, and FF IS THE SERIES YOU CHOOSE TO SAY THIS?! XD The stories just keep getting worse and worse, and the characters more and more insufferable. I think that you are letting the graphics get in the way of your interpretation of the characters in FF7 (though I don't think it's story is great by a long shot, it is at least somewhat memorable... unlike 8, 9, 10, 10, 10, 10, 121212121212121212121212121fucking12, and 1313131313131313131313131313131313131313131313131313131313131313131313)... 1-3 are the better entries as far as storywriting goes, IMO.

Modern storytelling is no better than storytelling of 15 years ago (also modern, fyi)... the storylines of video games are sometimes better than they were 15 years ago, but that's up to the artist, and nothing else. Same as it's always been. The gameplay IS slow, grinding, and tedious... and most games of that timeframe *depended* on gamers taking time to go through their *much shorter* games. I happen to enjoy grinding to some extent, though... so if it's a well-designed battle system (which FF7 is, btw): it's a fun thing for me.

You should have had a chance to try something like Shining Force

Aesthetics and graphics are NOT the same thing. Seriousness. Shit graphics and great aesthetics is good, fantastic graphics and shit aesthetics is... bland.

I wouldn't even call it a graphical update. I would call it a graphical update and a massive step backwards in the franchise. You went from controlling entire complex megalopoli regions interconnected with one another through complex commuting networks and infrastructures...to a city that at its biggest will spike 200,000 if you REALLY fuck everything else off in exchange for that alone. Fucking BOOOOO.

Well, you'll notice you call it a graphical update in both of these Simcity sucks, always has sucked.

[Creed of Heresy]

Nah, Simcity is the hottest.

[Jaysyn]

Bring back the Nintendo 64!!!

I did. It's loaded on my OUYA & works pretty good.