So today apparently Deputy Dumbass, who doesn't know a taser from a pistol, announced that he "regrets" shooting an unarmed man. I guess that makes it all better? Maybe he'll write another check to his buddy the sheriff?
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Private citizen regrets shooting a cop -
"bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt" Cop regrets shooting private citizen - "cmon guys..have a heart..he's super sorry, really tore up about it..you know? He went on paid administrative leave and everything......"
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (April 17, 2015 at 3:27 pm)Rhythm Wrote: -ignoring how absurdly rare that an event like that is...and how purile it makes the question in context....I'd call it a tragedy - but nothing that any cop could have or should have prevented in such a manner. Unfortunately (or fortunately, imo) our system is set up so that you actually have to -commit- said crime before that crime can be used as a justification for why the state acted against your interests. Committing some other crime does not immediately invite such wonderment, and I'm appalled at how quickly discussions go from zero to douche whenever this line is drawn in the sand. We could end a hell of alot of crime before it ever occurs if we just let the cops go out on random citizen duckshoots every morning. We don't..because it's a bad idea. It doesn't become a better idea if the citizens being shot have committed some other crime. Or, in this case..rather than shot..run over. Personally, I -do- care that this guy got run over....and I bet you'd want me to care..if it were you.Erm...he did commit a crime, many infact. He set fire to a church, stole a rifle and then preceeded to point it at people and shoot it in the air. Is it a crime to point a gun at a person or do you have to wait till they shoot someone until the law can intervene? I wasn't using the school kid example as justification for what the cop did, I've already said I don't agree with it. But I genuinly don't care that a gun toting pyromaniac got hit by a car.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech 
Yes, we can see that. That's the problem.
 (April 17, 2015 at 4:38 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote:(April 17, 2015 at 3:27 pm)Rhythm Wrote: -ignoring how absurdly rare that an event like that is...and how purile it makes the question in context....I'd call it a tragedy - but nothing that any cop could have or should have prevented in such a manner. Unfortunately (or fortunately, imo) our system is set up so that you actually have to -commit- said crime before that crime can be used as a justification for why the state acted against your interests. Committing some other crime does not immediately invite such wonderment, and I'm appalled at how quickly discussions go from zero to douche whenever this line is drawn in the sand. We could end a hell of alot of crime before it ever occurs if we just let the cops go out on random citizen duckshoots every morning. We don't..because it's a bad idea. It doesn't become a better idea if the citizens being shot have committed some other crime. Or, in this case..rather than shot..run over. Personally, I -do- care that this guy got run over....and I bet you'd want me to care..if it were you.Erm...he did commit a crime, many infact. He set fire to a church, stole a rifle and then preceeded to point it at people and shoot it in the air. Is it a crime to point a gun at a person or do you have to wait till they shoot someone until the law can intervene? I wasn't using the school kid example as justification for what the cop did, I've already said I don't agree with it. But I genuinly don't care that a gun toting pyromaniac got hit by a car. woulda, shoulda, coulda, you keep saying the same thing. you can't hit someone with a car, or shoot him just because he might do more harm. I don't get your thinking and Min is right you should care. Cops know they will get away with it and they just keep getting more violent.
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
Why is that a problem? I personally wouldn't have run him over. My view on this wouldn't inform my actions. But I think that one less maniac with a disregard for everyone elses saftey, is a good thing. You seem to see the world in black and white, but it really is just different shades of grey. The law is the law and we should follow it, the justice system is key to our civilisation but sometimes, shit happens that is beneficial to everyone, despite it being illegal.
Contrary to your belief about me, I know that the police shouldn't be able to get away with everything they do. But they aren't robots, they are us, they have their own views. Sometimes this causes them to go too far, and in this instance, he did, but I don't think it was wholly a bad thing.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech RE: Fucking Cops
April 17, 2015 at 5:10 pm
(This post was last modified: April 17, 2015 at 5:13 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Yeah, "sometimes shit happens thats good for everyone despite it being illegal"...said every cop to IA ever-
Let's see, some douche committed a stream of crimes followed by being mowed down by a cop exercising authority he did not have. I'd say that fits the definition of "all bad" - but I accept that this might be a difference of opinion between us. "They're us" isn't even remotely ameliorative. I'm us too....so are you....and we don't get to mow people down, or claim that we did society some good by mowing someone down. Again, this may be a simple difference of opinion.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (April 17, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Manowar Wrote: woulda, shoulda, coulda, you keep saying the same thing. No, I told you explicitly what he did do. Quote:you can't hit someone with a car, or shoot him just because he might do more harm. OK I agree, but what happens when a cop is in a stand off with a perp, they are both pointing guns at each other. Is the cop not justified in shooting him, just because the perp hasn't shot him yet, just because he 'might' do harm? Where is the line drawn? Is it because it's either him or them? I don't know.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech RE: Fucking Cops
April 17, 2015 at 5:14 pm
(This post was last modified: April 17, 2015 at 5:15 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Is the situation you just described in any way relevant to the situation in question? You reckon the perp was gonna go bigfoot on the cops cruiser with his reeboks?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
It was addressing the problems of acting against another person because of the potential they have to harm others. They are genuine questions.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech |
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