Warm welcome

[Koolay]

Hello friends, I do not believe in God or Government.

I follow a very simple way of thinking:

Is there reason or evidence for the suggested? If no: not true.

[Kitan Etos]

Elaborate on your resistance to government.

[Koolay]

Elaborate on your resistance to government.

Well it's not really to do with me, it's just that 'government' does not exist- it's just a violent monopoly that calls itself by the wrong name.

[Jackie]

Elaborate on your resistance to government.

Well it's not really to do with me, it's just that 'government' does not exist- it's just a violent monopoly that calls itself by the wrong name.

Bullshit, you like anarchy. Which is no better than a fascist state.

We socialize, and we do as a species, we set up order, be it consensual or forced. Violence is not an ideology, it is a means to set up a social order. But an order will happen, and that order is what we call "government".

So what the real question is "What can we set up that values the individual and keep order and avoid monopolies of power"

[Koolay]

Well it's not really to do with me, it's just that 'government' does not exist- it's just a violent monopoly that calls itself by the wrong name.

Bullshit, you like anarchy. Which is no better than a fascist state.

Well, you're telling me what I am thinking- which isn't a good start to a conversation.

Do you have any evidence supporting that claim?

We socialize, and we do as a species, we set up order, be it consensual or forced. Violence is not an ideology, it is a means to set up a social order. But an order will happen, and that order is what we call "government".

How is people initiating violence upon others that are non violent 'order'? Isn't that a lack of order?

And if your final solution to disagreeing with me is initiating violence, then I won't pretend this is a rational conversation.

[Rahul]

Guys (not the new guy), chill the fuck out. You will have plenty of time to allow him to elaborate on what he means after he steps through the door. This is the Introduction section. Do you remember the rules about this section of the forums?

Welcome Koolay! Good to see you. Don't worry about Brian37. He's still ticked that I peed in his Cheerios this morning.

[Savannahw]

Hello and welcome. Have a cookie ingore the drama. I think that everyone seems to put much crazy powder in their protein shakes lately.

[KichigaiNeko]

[Kayenneh]

Hello and welcome to AF! ^_^

[Cyberman]

Welcome aboard. The only comment I'll pass on the government thing is a mild caution not to confuse the mechanics of administrative governance with sycophantic and nepotistic bureaucracy. As a former UK Civil Servant working (bloody hard) under the Blair incumbency, I guarantee you that there would be pandemonium the very moment I and my colleagues closed shop and our customers stopped getting their money.