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Can Irrational people Be Persuaded with Rationality?
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RE: Can Irrational people Be Persuaded with Rationality?
(July 7, 2013 at 2:13 am)evenheathen Wrote: As a somewhat new to atheism contributor, I can say that the tendency towards cognitive dissonance is easy as a believer.

I've had many conversations with atheists (as a believer) in the past, and brushing off arguments is easy when you don't have any good reason to question your beliefs.

It took having kids and wanting nothing more than to be able to be absolutely honest and sure about my answers to them when I was questioned about life to really take a good look at what it is I believe in.

You're not ready to deal with reality until reality is important enough to you to get right.

So no, reason only works for people that are ready to be reasonable. Personal beliefs are impenetrable until the armor is taken off.

Your last sentence reminded me of this:

“Against logic ignorance is the best armor”
"Ocean: A body of water occupying about two-thirds of a world made for man - who has no gills.” ~ Ambrose Bierce

“I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's." - Mark Twain in Eruption
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RE: Can Irrational people Be Persuaded with Rationality?
The short answer is: yes.
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RE: Can Irrational people Be Persuaded with Rationality?
You cannot paint a theist as "irrational", in general, for everything. They only think irrationally when it comes to the subject of God (saying otherwise would be a blank assertion).

To answer your question: yes, irrational people (under my definition) can be reasoned with using rationale. After all, I once was Catholic. I'm living proof.
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RE: Can Irrational people Be Persuaded with Rationality?
(July 6, 2013 at 7:10 pm)Koolay Wrote: Personally I have had no luck talking rationality to irrational people.

Are you sure what you spoke about was rational? Maybe you were the irrational one talking to rational people?
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RE: Can Irrational people Be Persuaded with Rationality?
(July 7, 2013 at 11:58 am)MysticKnight Wrote: The short answer is: yes.

And an even shorter answer is 'no'.
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RE: Can Irrational people Be Persuaded with Rationality?
(July 7, 2013 at 12:18 pm)genkaus Wrote:
(July 7, 2013 at 11:58 am)MysticKnight Wrote: The short answer is: yes.

And an even shorter answer is 'no'.

Unless you're TGAC.


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