California Female Inmates Sterilized

[NoraBrimstone]

I'm not even sure why it's even a right to be able to push out as many babies as you want when you have no means to support them. With life expectancy on the rise, and child mortality at it's lowest ever, we're going to have to introduce some kind of popultion control at some point. Maybe starting now before we're overpopulated would be a good idea, and prisoners are as good a place to start as any.

[The Grand Nudger]

Actually -you're- as good a place as any. Volunteering others for such a thing isn't so hot.
(as to the op, if they have consent forms signed...meh, people make bad decisions that they later regret, I'm sure it's not made any easier if there's a coercive element - but that's difficult to establish). Rock and a hard place, do we say that prisoners are not allowed the medical care that we are allowed -in the case of those who want the procedure...if only to prevent incidents whereby someone is coerced or later regrets the procedure from being carried out by the minions of the state against charges of the state..essentially?

[thesummerqueen]

I volunteered. No babies out of my vagina. No sir.

[The Grand Nudger]

Thats too bad, keep in mind your jesus freak (and otherwise incapacitated) neighbors are pumping em out. That means fewer "you's" and more a "thems".

Just food for thought. :wink:

[Autumnlicious]

means that there's no paper trail, not even something as obvious as release/consent forms. There's no reason to accept that a charge this serious can be met with "nah, don't worry about it, she said it was okay."

Nothing like outright lying to make a point.

There is the implication that consent/non consent is part of their paperwork.

Here is one who didn't have the procedure:

"Jeffrey provided copies of her official prison and hospital medical files to CIR. Those records show Jeffrey rejected a tubal ligation offer during a December 2009 prenatal checkup at Heinrich's office. A medical report from Jeffrey's C-section a month later noted that she again refused a tubal ligation request made after she arrived at Madera Community Hospital."

That is a paper trail right there.

What's missing is the required oversight board sign off.

[Anomalocaris]

I volunteered. No babies out of my vagina. No sir.

You could seek forgiveness for that by having yourself cloned.

[thesummerqueen]

Thats too bad, keep in mind your jesus freak (and otherwise incapacitated) neighbors are pumping em out. That means fewer "you's" and more a "thems".

Just food for thought. :wink:

I'm pretty sure I'm the type of female to eat my own young so it would be a moot point in the end anyway.

You could seek forgiveness for that by having yourself cloned.

Isn't one "me" enough vengeance on the world?

[Tonus]

means that there's no paper trail, not even something as obvious as release/consent forms. There's no reason to accept that a charge this serious can be met with "nah, don't worry about it, she said it was okay."

Nothing like outright lying to make a point.

There is the implication that consent/non consent is part of their paperwork.

Here is one who didn't have the procedure:

"Jeffrey provided copies of her official prison and hospital medical files to CIR. Those records show Jeffrey rejected a tubal ligation offer during a December 2009 prenatal checkup at Heinrich's office. A medical report from Jeffrey's C-section a month later noted that she again refused a tubal ligation request made after she arrived at Madera Community Hospital."

That is a paper trail right there.

What's missing is the required oversight board sign off.

Oh, good catch. My sloppy reading.

[Autumnlicious]

Sorry for being overly cranky with you Tonus.

[Psykhronic]

I volunteered. No babies out of my vagina. No sir.

If I could get voluntarily sterilized right now, I would.