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Sam Harris simply destroys William Lane Craig
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I don't see how these arguments could work when the theist could make up any ad hoc excuse they like about God to keep him holy enough to allow evil and send people to hell.
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence." -- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).  (July 23, 2013 at 5:30 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: I don't see how these arguments could work when the theist could make up any ad hoc excuse they like about God to keep him holy enough to allow evil and send people to hell. It's not for the benefit of the liar. Rather, it's for the benefit of those he would try to prey on. 
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects!  (July 23, 2013 at 3:52 pm)little_monkey Wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcO4Tnrsk...1BzP1wr234 Great video! Harris is an excellent speaker. I don't much like his writing because it is too pedantic; but excellent argument. 
More power to Sam!
"Men see clearly enough the barbarity of all ages — except their own!" — Ernest Crosby.
I love the line at the end of this debate about saying latin words over pancakes. Awesome.
Yeah, I liked that too. I think I'll have to use that as a sig line.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
RE: Sam Harris simply destroys William Lane Craig
July 25, 2013 at 11:10 am
(This post was last modified: July 25, 2013 at 11:18 am by The Reality Salesman01.)
Awesome! Just in case you change your signature, I'm gonna copy and paste it below. I was too lazy to look for the exact words! Lol..Thanks!
"If you wake up tomorrow morning thinking that saying a few Latin words over your pancakes is going to turn them into the body of Elvis Presley, you've lost your mind. But if you think more or less the same thing about a cracker and the body of Jesus, you're just a Catholic." - Sam Harris Also, there were a couple of really great objections raised by the audience that had Craig pinched in the corner a couple of times. One of them gave Harris the segway needed to illustrate how psychotic Christianity is! That was especially enjoyable. The objection raised pertaining to a lack of consensus that Craig fallaciously avoided was also fun to watch. I really enjoy Harris' calm approach to Craigs insistent rubbish. Always a treat to watch these old debates. Shelly Kagan has some good stuff to say at the end of his morality debate with Craig as well. Kagan aslo has some pretty interesting Philosophy lectures from when he taught it at Yale. I'm not sure if he's still there or not. Interesting guy though.
Unless Harris came up with more substantive arguments against Craig later in the debate, I don't see how his arguments could be seen as compelling. He's primarily committing appeal to emotion fallacies and assuming without argument the existence of a moral system to put God under.
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence." -- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103). |
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