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Here is a interesting thought
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The trouble with the world is not that people know too little, but that they know so many things that ain't so.
-- Mark Twain

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#32
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There is no way I would beg and plea to be thrown onto this forsaken planet all to appease a deity.
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(July 25, 2013 at 12:54 am)Drich Wrote: What if He did ask us...

What if..

Every Soul on this planet elected to be here. what if we begged and pleaded to be here for this chance to prove ourselves. or rather to re prove ourselves as loyal to God?

That is one might big what if. Are we looking at it as a potential story line or do you actually think it plausible. (If the latter, please seek help!)
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(July 25, 2013 at 12:54 am)Drich Wrote: Every Soul on this planet elected to be here.

Dafuq?

There was a questionnaire pre-birth? Do you wish to be on this planet? (Y/N) __

And souls don't exist.

And neither does your god.

Otherwise, I'm sure your "interesting thought" had a lot of merit.
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Is somebody going to tell him that the Matrix movies drew upon themes from multiple world religions?

I guess not.




Since the beginning of recorded history, mankind has puzzled about what makes life and mind what it is. In that, such speculations have generally tracked understanding of physics and devices of the time. For some ancients, the breath was associated with life, and the substance of man with the breath. The Stoics imagined fire as the universal animating principle, and thus the nature of mind was an interaction between the fire of god and the air or breath of the pneuma. Somewhere along the way, the spirit became incorporeal. However, when machines were developed, the ideas of the self echoed the fascination with machines by imagining clockwork beings, powered by steam or electricity. Now that the epitome of a thinking machine is a computer, the mind is analogized to a computer, despite the fact that the computational architecture of the brain is vastly different. I occasionally visit with a group which studies the works of Jane Roberts, who channels an entity known as Seth. At one such meeting, I came across a passage in one of their books which referred to a record of all conscious activity and thought, similar to the Akashic record, yet true to form for a modern author, the records were stored in a type of computer-like data bank.



In philosophy, one theory of justification, of knowing whether or not something is true or justified, is whether it is consistent with whatever else is known and believed. (Not to be confused with the coherence theory of truth. This form of 'coherentism' is about justification, not truth per se.) I haven't had time to pursue my studies in that direction, but what I suspect from my brief glances and other studies is, that while coherence or consistency is a necessary part of justification, it by itself is not sufficient to guarantee truth. Unfortunately, a lot of theological speculation, such as this here, only satisfies coherence; it doesn't reach anywhere close to justifying believing it as true. But you can't tell that to many religious people; they think that if they can construct a coherent story, they're on to something. Perhaps, but you need considerably more before you should take such stories seriously.


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(July 26, 2013 at 8:59 am)Drich Wrote: 'christians' or people who call themselves that won't be the only one in heaven.
Christ did not say no one comes to the Father, but by Christianity. Christ is the finial judge and he will decide who is 'Christian' and who is not. The titles we give ourselves are meaningless.
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus? No salvation outside the church? Why did all those missionaries sail across the globe if not out of the firm belief that these people would actually burn in hell for not praying to Jesus Christ? Now you're giving a very different view, a watered-down modernized one, but isn't it funny how so many people referring to the same doctrine, the same text and the same savoir come up with so many different and conflicting interpretations? Some of which change fundamentally as times change? To me that thoroughly underlines that any religion is merely a human construct established as a remedy to very human issues.
"Men see clearly enough the barbarity of all ages — except their own!" — Ernest Crosby.
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(July 25, 2013 at 9:31 pm)Drich Wrote:
(July 25, 2013 at 9:25 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I don't know about Mormon doctrine; this stuff sounds a lot like Scientology to me.

what part?

The words.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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