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RE: moon landing hoax?
September 11, 2013 at 5:54 pm
(September 11, 2013 at 5:13 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: And the strange thing is that conspiracy theorists believe that we never went to the moon, but believe that Obama secretly teleported to Mars.
Haha, that's ridiculous. Everyone knows Obama is FROM Mars. Why else would he avoid the genuine birth issue?
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RE: moon landing hoax?
September 11, 2013 at 6:35 pm
How the hell did a Nigerian born Muslim magically become John Carter? Anti-Christ powers?
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RE: moon landing hoax?
September 11, 2013 at 7:20 pm
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2013 at 7:28 pm by Angrboda.)
I would agree with the analogy to religion on certain points. Like religion, conspiracy theorism is a self-contained, internally self-consistent and self-validating worldview. I've suggested in the past that it may even border on a thought disorder, but perhaps I was projecting because of my own biases in the same way that I might attribute dishonesty or stupidity to a religious person. In that sense, it's perhaps futile to challenge the worldview, for many reasons. And I'm not sure it's a useful goal. The beliefs themselves are really not important; perfectly sane people believe crazy or unsound things all the time, it's more the patterns of thought and the consequences for their social functioning and so on. And trying to change other people is usually a frustrating and unproductive exercise that can cause more problems than it solves. I don't know that I have a point here other than that it may be more useful, ennobling, and character building to learn to accept them as they are than to see them as a problem to be solved. (On the other hand, a fellow moderator turned out to be a truther, and I hardly get one sentence into a conversation with him before I start swearing like a banshee, so I certainly sympathize.)
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RE: moon landing hoax?
September 11, 2013 at 7:51 pm
It happened.
End of discussion.
And do me the favor of punching every conspiracy nut you meet in the face.
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RE: moon landing hoax?
September 11, 2013 at 9:51 pm
(September 11, 2013 at 8:53 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: Andrew D. Basiago and William Stillings.
Well, fuck me. Just when you thought you'd fully probed the depth of human insanity, someone comes along to point out that you've only waded in.
At least conspiracy theorists give us clear cut evidence that people will believe in anything to use against religious people.
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RE: moon landing hoax?
September 11, 2013 at 10:00 pm
(September 11, 2013 at 5:24 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (September 11, 2013 at 5:13 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: ...but believe that Obama secretly teleported to Mars.
Who believes that?
Google "Obama Mars."
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RE: moon landing hoax?
September 11, 2013 at 10:25 pm
The thing that drives me nuts about conspiracy theorists is that they disguise their gullibility as skepticism . Believing, against all evidence, that we didn't go to the moon isn't being skeptical. In fact you have to believe some very very very very very very very bad evidence with a total lack of skepticism to think something so stupid.