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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
September 17, 2013 at 7:07 pm
(September 17, 2013 at 4:44 pm)searching4truth Wrote: But if the Trinity exists and they all are one then wouldn't that mean if you reject one, you reject them all? It says if you reject the Son you can be forgiven but if you reject the Holy Spirit, that's unforgivable but the only way to salvation is through the Son. But they are all three in one... I don't understand.
It all has to do with the concepts behind each part of the Trinity. The three parts are essentially: Creator, Begotten and Within.
In theory, when you accept Jesus, that's when "The Holy Spirit" comes in to your heart. The Holy Spirit is, in sum, the divine that is within you once you have accepted Christ. In the Bible, it's often used as a reference to a guiding force that reveals certain truths, such as when Elizabeth met the pregnant Mary and The Holy Spirit revealed to her that she was not only with child but that this was the Son of God. Thus when Charismatics invoke The Holy Spirit in healings or exorcisms, they are invoking the power of God from within themselves.
So to reject The Holy Spirit is to reject this very process of salvation. This is probably why it's the unforgivable sin.
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
September 17, 2013 at 10:05 pm
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So in the past I have accepted Jesus into my life and for a long time, as faithfully as I could being a human and all, lived the Christian lifestyle. Church every week, two or three times per week, baptism, speaking at various churches in three different states about my experience coming to God, community and church servitude, hands raised at worship and the sensation of God running through me, constantly in prayer and evangelizing to those I knew weren't "believers." At that point I would have had the Holy Spirit in my heart and if I would have died at that period of my life, in theory, I would have spent eternity frolicking through the fields of heaven and singing with the angels "Holy Holy Holy is the Lord Almighty" whereas being at this point in my life accepting reason and logic into my heart, would be considered rejection of the Holy Spirit and from now on out, no matter what I do, I will spend eternity separated from God?
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
September 17, 2013 at 10:25 pm
(September 17, 2013 at 9:05 am)searching4truth Wrote: (September 17, 2013 at 12:23 am)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: Nope. Says so in the Wholly Babble three times. even though apparently no matter your past transgressions, as long as you repent and accept Jesus into your heart, you can see heaven
Is that anything like Sarah Palin seeing Russia from her house?
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
September 17, 2013 at 10:41 pm
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I suppose it's more glamorous.....being built of solid gold and pearls and all. Like being a supernatural being in paradise for all eternity would have any interest in gold and pearls
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
September 17, 2013 at 10:44 pm
Of course the tale was concocted to appeal to peasant farmers who spent their lives ankle deep in sheep shit.
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
September 17, 2013 at 11:24 pm
(September 17, 2013 at 10:44 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Of course the tale was concocted to appeal to peasant farmers who spent their lives ankle deep in sheep shit. *The puzzle finally pieces together*
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
September 17, 2013 at 11:24 pm
(September 17, 2013 at 10:44 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Of course the tale was concocted to appeal to peasant farmers who spent their lives ankle deep in sheep shit. Slavery, gottah love it
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
September 23, 2013 at 9:28 am
(September 15, 2013 at 11:06 am)Minimalist Wrote: They also have a lot of stupidity. "God" backed the wrong horse. You'd think a "god" could do better.
![[Image: tyreleb.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy108%2Frschilla%2Ftyreleb.jpg) This very arguement was destroyed months ago minnie what are you doing?
If you need a reminder start at post 10
http://atheistforums.org/thread-15349.ht...light=Tyre
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
September 23, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Drich
19 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: When I make you a desolate city, like cities no longer inhabited, and when I bring the ocean depths over you and its vast waters cover you, 20 then I will bring you down with those who go down to the pit, to the people of long ago. I will make you dwell in the earth below, as in ancient ruins, with those who go down to the pit, and you will not return or take your place[c] in the land of the living. 21 I will bring you to a horrible end and you will be no more. You will be sought, but you will never again be found, declares the Sovereign Lord.”
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Why is Tyre Still Here When God Said it Would Sink Under the Waves?
September 23, 2013 at 3:01 pm
Quote:This very arguement was destroyed months ago minnie what are you doing?
Hey, shithead. Because you scribble some bullshit on a page does not mean that you have ever destroyed anything...beyond whatever shred of dignity you may have had left.
Tyre is still there. It did not sink beneath the fucking waves. Your "god" is a fucking loser.....no wonder you worship him.
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