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Christian "Morality"
#21
RE: Christian "Morality"
I simply do not want to cause people unnecessary harm because I would not like the same done to me.
Nothing would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary-wise; what it is it wouldn't be, and what it wouldn't be, it would. -Alice
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#22
RE: Christian "Morality"
(September 23, 2013 at 9:10 pm)Drich Wrote:
(September 23, 2013 at 7:17 pm)sarcasticgeographer Wrote: Christians do the right thing for fear of hell.

I do the right thing because I don't fear hell.

How can christians be "moral" if their only reason to do something is out of fear? When did fear justify good behavior? When did fear justify righteousness?

Discuss.

May I submit that there is no 'right thing.'

What you do is based on your fear soceity's wrath if you do not adopt its morality as your own.

Congratulations - you have just identified one of the worst things about your religion - the total inability to recognise that anyone can do, or want to do the right thing just because they are a human being.

Oh - and there may not always be a "right thing" but there often is.
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#23
RE: Christian "Morality"
Sorry for the late reply. I agree that perhaps I did generalize a bit and did not clarify what I meant. What I mean to say is that when I do good, it is because of the golden rule. It just seems to me that a lot of christians do good out of fear of going to hell. I just didn't know how to stipulate it.

Thank you Germans and Boru for pointing out the generalization of my statement. Also, thank you all for your comments.
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#24
RE: Christian "Morality"
Don't most people observe moral or 'good' behavior out of fear? We are social creatures, and on some level want to belong to the group, so we adapt our behavior as much as needed in order to belong. We fear the rejection of the group, both the immediate group (family, friends, co-workers, etc) and the larger group (community, society, etc). Some people add an additional layer --or group-- via religious morals, but I don't think they abandon the other groups.
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