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Poll: Where are you on the Dawkins scale?
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Strong theist. 100 per cent probability of God.
3.45%
1 3.45%
De facto theist. Very high probability but short of 100 per cent.
6.90%
2 6.90%
Leaning towards theism. Higher than 50 per cent but not very high.
0%
0 0%
Completely impartial. Exactly 50 per cent.
0%
0 0%
Leaning towards Agnosticism. Lower than 50 per cent but not very low.
6.90%
2 6.90%
De facto atheist. Very low probability, but short of zero.
44.83%
13 44.83%
Strong atheist. 100 per cent
13.79%
4 13.79%
I reject the Dawkins scale.
24.14%
7 24.14%
Total 29 vote(s) 100%
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Where are you on the Dawkins scale?
#21
RE: Where are you on the Dawkins scale?
(September 29, 2013 at 9:31 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Dawkins' scale confuses the meaning of agnosticism, so I reject it based on that reason.

I'd be interested to hear why.
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#22
RE: Where are you on the Dawkins scale?
I no longer think about the issue of God. So I have no place on Dawkins Scale. I am homeless. Sad
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#23
RE: Where are you on the Dawkins scale?
(September 30, 2013 at 2:20 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote:
(September 29, 2013 at 9:31 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Dawkins' scale confuses the meaning of agnosticism, so I reject it based on that reason.

I'd be interested to hear why.
Dawkins seems to put agnosticism as the mid-point on his scale, but agnosticism is not the belief that the existence of god is a 50/50 thing. Agnosticism is simply a way of thinking about the nature of knowledge of gods. An agnostic may believe in God or may not believe in God, but would never go as far as to say "I know God exists". So, practically, an agnostic could be anywhere on the scale between 2 and 6 inclusive.
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#24
RE: Where are you on the Dawkins scale?
(October 1, 2013 at 11:12 am)Tiberius Wrote:
(September 30, 2013 at 2:20 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I'd be interested to hear why.
Dawkins seems to put agnosticism as the mid-point on his scale, but agnosticism is not the belief that the existence of god is a 50/50 thing. Agnosticism is simply a way of thinking about the nature of knowledge of gods. An agnostic may believe in God or may not believe in God, but would never go as far as to say "I know God exists". So, practically, an agnostic could be anywhere on the scale between 2 and 6 inclusive.

How does this idea interact with the "But people can define themselves however they want, bro. Who are you to tell me what agnosticism means!" attitude?

Given the fabrication of new definitions for atheism, I honestly don't put stock in singular definitions anymore.
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#25
RE: Where are you on the Dawkins scale?
What new definitions for atheism? Does it not mean "without theism" anymore?
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#26
RE: Where are you on the Dawkins scale?
(October 1, 2013 at 5:16 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: What new definitions for atheism? Does it not mean "without theism" anymore?

My coffee is atheist according to that definition. It is also without milk. Does that make it "Amilkist?"
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#27
RE: Where are you on the Dawkins scale?
(October 1, 2013 at 5:22 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote:
(October 1, 2013 at 5:16 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: What new definitions for atheism? Does it not mean "without theism" anymore?

My coffee is atheist according to that definition. It is also without milk. Does that make it "Amilkist?"

Puta que pariu! Tu és lento e idiota!!


a·the·ist
[ey-thee-ist] Show IPA
noun
a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.


Notice how the definition starts with "a person". It's not "a thing". It's not "any thing"... It's "a person".
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#28
RE: Where are you on the Dawkins scale?
(October 1, 2013 at 11:12 am)Tiberius Wrote:
(September 30, 2013 at 2:20 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I'd be interested to hear why.
Dawkins seems to put agnosticism as the mid-point on his scale, but agnosticism is not the belief that the existence of god is a 50/50 thing. Agnosticism is simply a way of thinking about the nature of knowledge of gods. An agnostic may believe in God or may not believe in God, but would never go as far as to say "I know God exists". So, practically, an agnostic could be anywhere on the scale between 2 and 6 inclusive.

Actually, that is precisely what Dawkins said when he created that scale.

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#29
RE: Where are you on the Dawkins scale?
(October 1, 2013 at 6:00 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(October 1, 2013 at 5:22 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: My coffee is atheist according to that definition. It is also without milk. Does that make it "Amilkist?"

Puta que pariu! Tu és lento e idiota!!


a·the·ist
[ey-thee-ist] Show IPA
noun
a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.


Notice how the definition starts with "a person". It's not "a thing". It's not "any thing"... It's "a person".

Notice how it doesn't say "without theism" either. Cafone.
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#30
RE: Where are you on the Dawkins scale?
(October 1, 2013 at 6:35 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote:
(October 1, 2013 at 6:00 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Puta que pariu! Tu és lento e idiota!!


a·the·ist
[ey-thee-ist] Show IPA
noun
a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.


Notice how the definition starts with "a person". It's not "a thing". It's not "any thing"... It's "a person".

Notice how it doesn't say "without theism" either. Cafone.
Yes it does. A theist is someone who believes in the existence of a being or beings.
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