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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
September 30, 2013 at 12:02 pm
Why would you look for that?
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
September 30, 2013 at 12:05 pm
(September 30, 2013 at 12:02 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Why would you look for that?
Because I'm weary of the usual high quality theist threads here and was looking to switch things up a bit.
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
September 30, 2013 at 12:19 pm
I don't know, I got a few chuckles from it.
I will be waiting with baited breath for the OP's proof that Shiva the Destroyer does not exist.
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
September 30, 2013 at 12:20 pm
(September 30, 2013 at 12:05 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (September 30, 2013 at 12:02 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Why would you look for that?
Because I'm weary of the usual high quality theist threads here and was looking to switch things up a bit.
Cue rimshot...
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
September 30, 2013 at 1:15 pm
(September 30, 2013 at 6:44 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: To truly be an atheist is to claim that there in no God.
Wrong. An atheist lacks the belief in any gods. That doesn't mean that there isn't a slight possibility that a god (whatever that is) might exist, but it's up to the theists (especially those who practise worshipping) to prove why their 'god' is the one, why it should be worshipped and why it even cares about earth and just one particular breed of ape.
Quote:But that very claim is to pose an absolute negation about a supreme being. It would be extremely hard to prove such an absolute negation. Even if you could look throughout the entire universe, which you cannot, and found no God, that still would not prove that God does not exist. It would at best prove that God could not be seen.
Hah, I knew 'witnessing' and hallucinations didn't suffice as proof!
(September 30, 2013 at 7:37 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: I believe the Holy Bible is true. It claims to be from God Almighty. It proves itself in many ways.
Circular logic, very fallacious.
Quote:The atheists does not have a book which claims to be from their supreme being.
Quote:The Holy Bible is a record of historical events. These events show that God exist.
And my books by J.K. Rowling is proof that Harry Potter exists. Actually, Voldemort lives in my closet.
Quote:The saved have the witness of the Holy Spirit in them.
The atheists has the witness of the nobody.
The existence of the universe is a very strong proof of the existence of its Creator.
The atheist must try to explain it away.
All attempts have failed.
I'm going to regret this, but elaborate please. Because the quote above is so full of bullshit.
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
September 30, 2013 at 1:19 pm
Quote:To truly be an atheist is to claim that there in no God.
That is not my definition pal.
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
September 30, 2013 at 1:22 pm
(September 30, 2013 at 8:21 am)Drich Wrote: I do t know if it has been mentioned yet, but a while back I also identified a third option to atheist and agnostic. That was the term miso theist. That is one who hates God. This person looks at what God has done in the bible or what they believe He has done in their life, and says He is a monster not worthy of worship.
If you hate god then you believe in god and are therefore a theist. An actual Satanist would fall into this category.
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
September 30, 2013 at 1:28 pm
(September 30, 2013 at 1:15 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: (September 30, 2013 at 6:44 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: To truly be an atheist is to claim that there in no God.
Wrong. An atheist lacks the belief in any gods. That doesn't mean that there isn't a slight possibility that a god (whatever that is) might exist, but it's up to the theists (especially those who practise worshipping) to prove why their 'god' is the one, why it should be worshipped and why it even cares about earth and just one particular breed of ape.
Quote:But that very claim is to pose an absolute negation about a supreme being. It would be extremely hard to prove such an absolute negation. Even if you could look throughout the entire universe, which you cannot, and found no God, that still would not prove that God does not exist. It would at best prove that God could not be seen.
Hah, I knew 'witnessing' and hallucinations didn't suffice as proof!
(September 30, 2013 at 7:37 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: I believe the Holy Bible is true. It claims to be from God Almighty. It proves itself in many ways.
Circular logic, very fallacious.
Quote:The atheists does not have a book which claims to be from their supreme being.
Quote:The Holy Bible is a record of historical events. These events show that God exist.
And my books by J.K. Rowling is proof that Harry Potter exists. Actually, Voldemort lives in my closet.
Quote:The saved have the witness of the Holy Spirit in them.
The atheists has the witness of the nobody.
The existence of the universe is a very strong proof of the existence of its Creator.
The atheist must try to explain it away.
All attempts have failed.
I'm going to regret this, but elaborate please. Because the quote above is so full of bullshit.
I want to discuss that in another thread or two.
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
September 30, 2013 at 1:39 pm
"The atheists does not have a book which claims to be from their supreme being. It would say "I am God I do not exist""
Fucking brilliant!
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RE: Atheist or really Agnostic
September 30, 2013 at 1:42 pm
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(September 30, 2013 at 6:44 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: To truly be an atheist is to claim that there in no God.
Nope.
(September 30, 2013 at 7:37 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: I believe the Holy Bible is true.
It claims to be from God Almighty.
It proves itself in many ways.
I believe the Quran is true.
It claims to be from Allah almighty through his prophet Mohammed.
It proves itself in many ways.
Also, circular reasoning fallacy.
(September 30, 2013 at 7:37 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: The atheists does not have a book which claims to be from their supreme being. It would say "I am God I do not exist"
I almost repped you for this because it is so wrong it was almost right...almost.
(September 30, 2013 at 7:37 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: The Holy Bible is a record of historical events. These events show that God exist.
The atheist has no record of the no God''s actions.
And I think any attempt at reasoned discourse went to Mykonos right about here.
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