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I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
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I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
October 2, 2013 at 3:50 pm
I am a Young Earth Creationist on a quest: I am sincerely interested in reading EVERY argument against YEC.

Brief background: After studying creationism, I was encouraged to see how strong this model has become over the recent decade.
It caused me to want to search out and read arguments AGAINST creation. And the more I read them, the more convinced I became: the creation model is actually very logically solid.

But just to make sure I’ve done a thorough search, I decided to come here and ask members of an atheist forum. I’ve certainly done plenty of searching myself, googling, bing-ing, etc. I’m pretty sure I’ve read all of them, but perhaps you know of some more.
Here’s links to the ‘best’ ones I’ve found (I not included the lesser quality ones):
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Branches_of...reationism
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_ag...t_creation
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4065
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Problems_wi..._inerrancy
http://www.skepticreport.com/sr/?cat=16
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-flood.html
http://www.skepticreport.com/sr/?p=499
http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...reationist (As a YEC, I particularly enjoyed this one)

So, if you have any other good ones, please post them here and I will read them.

**REQUEST: PLEASE keep this thread on topic: posting challenges to YEC.
I am not interested in starting a debate, nor defending myself. I REALLY do want good information in response, from credible sources when possible (not just random thoughts).

(Fellow creationists: please don’t jump in and ramble, just listen. In fact, if you do that same research I’ve done, you might too come out very encouraged by what you believe)

-Jeff
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
October 2, 2013 at 3:54 pm
Screw you and your ground rules, pal.

No debate? What's my motivation then?
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
October 2, 2013 at 3:57 pm
No thanks!
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
October 2, 2013 at 3:57 pm (This post was last modified: October 2, 2013 at 3:59 pm by Simon Moon.)
If you believe any of the observed, scientific evidence, in any related field, supports YEC, you are already mentally challenged.

You might as well state that you want to be challenged on your belief the earth is flat.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
October 2, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Young earth creationism is a huge stinking pile of shit.

Prove me wrong.
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
October 2, 2013 at 4:02 pm
I'm pretty sure everyone is bored with creationism at this point..
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
October 2, 2013 at 4:03 pm
You're a YEC and want a challenge?

What's 1 + 1?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
October 2, 2013 at 4:05 pm
(October 2, 2013 at 4:03 pm)Faith No More Wrote: You're a YEC and want a challenge?

What's 1 + 1?

LOL, Ba-zing!
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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
October 2, 2013 at 4:12 pm (This post was last modified: October 2, 2013 at 4:14 pm by Brian37.)
(October 2, 2013 at 3:50 pm)JeffB Wrote: I am a Young Earth Creationist on a quest: I am sincerely interested in reading EVERY argument against YEC.

Brief background: After studying creationism, I was encouraged to see how strong this model has become over the recent decade.
It caused me to want to search out and read arguments AGAINST creation. And the more I read them, the more convinced I became: the creation model is actually very logically solid.

But just to make sure I’ve done a thorough search, I decided to come here and ask members of an atheist forum. I’ve certainly done plenty of searching myself, googling, bing-ing, etc. I’m pretty sure I’ve read all of them, but perhaps you know of some more.
Here’s links to the ‘best’ ones I’ve found (I not included the lesser quality ones):
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Branches_of...reationism
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_ag...t_creation
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4065
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Problems_wi..._inerrancy
http://www.skepticreport.com/sr/?cat=16
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-flood.html
http://www.skepticreport.com/sr/?p=499
http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...reationist (As a YEC, I particularly enjoyed this one)

So, if you have any other good ones, please post them here and I will read them.

**REQUEST: PLEASE keep this thread on topic: posting challenges to YEC.
I am not interested in starting a debate, nor defending myself. I REALLY do want good information in response, from credible sources when possible (not just random thoughts).

(Fellow creationists: please don’t jump in and ramble, just listen. In fact, if you do that same research I’ve done, you might too come out very encouraged by what you believe)

-Jeff

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RE: I'm a YEC. Challenge me.
October 2, 2013 at 4:15 pm
But as a dishboy you can't afford either.
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