I'm a YEC. Challenge me.

[Angrboda]

Poor Lilly. She wants it so bad, and yet they won't make her moderator.

[JeffB]

Present this evidence, and we'll see. I'd enjoy a bit of research.

A few links (I had to look them up real quick):
http://creation.com/young-saturn
http://www.icr.org/article/7200/
Items 1 – 3 here: http://www.icr.org/articles/view/1842/264/
Items 65 through 95 here: http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth

[Violet]

Poor Lilly. She wants it so bad, and yet they won't make her moderator.

They fear the darkness in my soul! THEY FEAR MY POWER!

They tells me they wants me here. But they don't, actually I suppose the deal breaker would be a green name... but I'm sure I'd get over it. It'd look weird as hell, though.

[LastPoet]

I thought we were puffed into existence by the divine Tiberius!

[Violet]

I thought we were puffed into existence by the divine Tiberius!

Mmm, right... that would be our agreement on how that happened. Fucking contracts.

[Crossless2.0]

I'm sober and out of pain reliever so I know I'll regret this, but what the hell! OK, what scientific evidence do you have that contradicts the generally accepted age of the universe?

Here are a few links:
http://creation.com/young-saturn
http://www.icr.org/article/7200/
Items 1 – 3 here: http://www.icr.org/articles/view/1842/264/
Items 65 through 95 here: http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth

The ICR . . . of course. The same guys who couldn't publish a scientific paper in a real professional journal if their lives depended on it. I'd ask if you were fucking serious with this stuff, but I know you're not serious.

Earnest? Maybe. Serious? Definitely not.

Since I have better things to do with my time than dick around trying to deal with the ICR's "Throw As Much Shit Against the Wall as Possible" tactic, why don't you pick out what you think are the most compelling pieces of evidence from your links and make your case? Then this so-called discussion will at least have some focus.

[max-greece]

Present this evidence, and we'll see. I'd enjoy a bit of research.

A few links (I had to look them up real quick):
http://creation.com/young-saturn
http://www.icr.org/article/7200/
Items 1 – 3 here: http://www.icr.org/articles/view/1842/264/
Items 65 through 95 here: http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth

Interesting first link Jeff. Strange that I haven't come across these problems before.

Of course I did a quick search on the author, David Coppedge.

Worked for NASA - True.
Fired from NASA - strangely not mentioned.
Position - computer "team lead" Systems Administrator for NASA's JPL on the Cassini mission to Saturn

There's a legal case mentioned which may have concluded but I am not sure. I found the tentative ruling which states:

"Computer systems administrator David Coppedge was harassed, demoted, and ultimately discharged by NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab (JPL) after sharing some pro-intelligent design DVDs with colleagues at work. JPL eventually claimed that its actions against Coppedge had nothing to do with intelligent design, although a significant amount of evidence suggests otherwise. Earlier this year, Coppedge's discrimination lawsuit was heard in a state court in California. The judge in the case has now issued a tentative ruling that favors the Jet Propulsion Lab, and the Associated Press has published a story covering the tentative ruling. - See more at: http://www.evolutionnews.org/2012/11/ten...Rszfy.dpuf"

Basically this guy is obviously YEC and probably was when he joined.

He was a computer team leader though, not a researcher so his interpretation of the data is open to question.

That he was fired doesn't help his case either.

Obviously this made me a bit suspicious so I started to do some google searching and found http://spaceindustrynews.com/nasa-saturn...years-old/

Apparently it USED to be thought that Saturn's rings were much younger but the evidence now points to Saturn having rings throughout its life.

The above link probably gives the game away.

Do you really want me to follow up on the other links. I hate to burst anyone's fantasies.

[Beta Ray Bill]

I thought we were puffed into existence by the divine Tiberius!

Captain Kirk's grandfather? You mean James Tiberius Kirk is the GRANDSON of God?

(Lame, yes, but I'm in a Starbucks with nothing else to do...)

[Violet]

I thought we were puffed into existence by the divine Tiberius!

Captain Kirk's grandfather? You mean James Tiberius Kirk is the GRANDSON of God?

(Lame, yes, but I'm in a Starbucks with nothing else to do...)

http://atheistforums.org/user-1.html

No shitty starship captain could even hope to compete with the might of Tiberius. The space cowboy ain't nearly so hot in bed as that hot hunk of thinking flesh.

They say he was the first.

[Mothonis]

Lol kayenneh your the best!