The most important reason anyone is an atheist

[Walking Void]

I came back to this thread for a much needed laugh. Thanks, Enrico!

[Little Rik]

So you are 100% sure that Abe Alexander make something up?

I am 100% sure that, as I stated, I am not compelled to believe claims that he makes up. If he isn't just making something up, he can present his case. If it is compelling I would consider it further.

I was talking about your cherry picking policy.
On one side you guys say that (physical) science is the benchmark for evaluate whether theories are good or not but when you are presented with a scientist that say that God exist then you say that this is no evidence.

By the same token, I am not compelled to believe your made-up claims. If you aren't making things up, by all means present your case. If you are claiming that you've presented your case, I would have to say that it's not a compelling one.

Whatever case i would present you wouldn't believe anyway.
You are still stuck in the idea that life is finite and in this way you lock yourself inside the corral of dogma.

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Hey asshole. You're the one touting this intuitional science bullshit. Yet when given an opportunity to actually display it's awesome power you attempt to obfuscate and dodge. So in summary, you're a fraud and a liar, not to mention a delusional crazy person. Me being arrogant doesn't stop that being true does it? If I had a son, I'd immediately take him out of a school if it was teaching the same crazy bollocks you're forwarding and proceed to lobby for the imprisonment of those teachers supporting this on grounds of child abuse.
So what's in the goddamn box, mr fraud? Tell us or stick it up your ass.

A chicken has got more brain that you.
You have been explained that to get at the stage in which you can see inside a box you must reach the top of human emancipation and yet you masturbate your chicken brain in the hope that i come up with an answer.
Did i ever said that i reach the top and i can see inside a box?
Would you ask your young son things that are taught at the uni?
Do something please, wake up and grow up so your brains stuff look more like human and less chicken.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Whatever case i would present you wouldn't believe anyway.

Stop talking shit.

We would accept something that holds up to repeated, falsifiable tests. That's why I accept that things like artificial insulin works to control type 1 diabetes, and why I understand jumping off of a 3 story building will most likely end up with me breaking my legs (at least).

What we don't accept is nonsense made up in the minds of severely delusional people who want others to accept their delusions based on nothing more than a thought they farted out of their so called 'brains'.

So, worked out what's in the box yet? Or are you still lying like the fraud you are?

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Hey asshole. You're the one touting this intuitional science bullshit. Yet when given an opportunity to actually display it's awesome power you attempt to obfuscate and dodge. So in summary, you're a fraud and a liar, not to mention a delusional crazy person. Me being arrogant doesn't stop that being true does it? If I had a son, I'd immediately take him out of a school if it was teaching the same crazy bollocks you're forwarding and proceed to lobby for the imprisonment of those teachers supporting this on grounds of child abuse.
So what's in the goddamn box, mr fraud? Tell us or stick it up your ass.

A chicken has got more brain that you.
You have been explained that to get at the stage in which you can see inside a box you must reach the top of human emancipation and yet you masturbate your chicken brain in the hope that i come up with an answer.
Did i ever said that i reach the top and i can see inside a box?
Would you ask your young son things that are taught at the uni?
Do something please, wake up and grow up so your brains stuff look more like human and less chicken.

Stop talking shit.

You're a fraud and a liar, and delusion to the point that you're probably mentally disabled in some form or another.

Your pathetically weak analogy to equate you making nonsense up to it somehow being attributable to 'knowledge' is just that, pathetic.

Having my questioning of you being equated to having the mental capacity of a chicken would hold some sort of insult value if the person insulting me wasn't a delusional moron who is himself educationally sub-normal.

So you can't tell us what's in the box because you're too stupid to even understand your own delusion ('intuitional science[???]).

Ok, here's an easy one for someone who is a beginner at understanding their own delusions. What's this?:

Take as many guesses you like.

[Little Rik]

I came back to this thread for a much needed laugh. Thanks, Enrico!

Oh, good, now i found the expert in this religious forum.
What is the difference between religion and spirituality?
Why the religions came into existence?
Please tell me so i put an end to my mental torture.

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Tell us what's in the box. And do your stretches.

The more you bang you chicken brain on the wall and the more you cause damage.
I am worry about the damages at the wall however!

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Tell us what's in the box. And do your stretches.

The more you bang you chicken brain on the wall and the more you cause damage.
I am worry about the damages at the wall however!

Come on shit for brains, you can insult better than that can't you?

Really put your little mind into it. I mean, a chicken brain? Lol. Ok son, whatever you say

So easy to derail you from your delusions, although all that happens is you start inventing new ones.

Shit man, you sure you're not in a padded cell at the moment ?

[Bad Wolf]

And yet again enrico demonstrates just how weak his position is. When you can't justify your own position, go on the offensive and attack and insult everyone else's.
Theist debating tactics 101

[Little Rik]

I can't tell you the basics of religion or spirituality. There are many different traditions of which religion or spirituality plays a part. I also can't tell you what gods are, but then even those who claim to know what they are don't agree on a description. You probably have your own idea of what god is and you're welcome to it. But since I don't have one it isn't a topic of interest to me.

When i see my doctor i may make a joke or two but i never would argue with him about what is a disease so when i go in a forum that discuss topics which i am not well knowledgeable then i just listen or i would ask question but in no way i would argue.
Unfortunately too many people who haven't got a clue about religion and philosophy argue non stop.

I do believe in consciousness however because I have direct experience of that. My suspicion is that our brains are elastic enough to support not only the program we call our conscious mind but also others, including whatever it is people believe to be their god.

So what is your idea about consciousness?
Can consciousness be separated from the body-mind or die when the body-mind die?

We could discuss philosophy. I have some ideas. My own philosophic bent is toward plain speech. If a thing can be said at all it should be possible to say it simply. Anything which cannot be said plainly is suspect. The chief purpose of philosophy is to sketch out what is and isn't known in areas which are not yet fully understood.

Easy said then done mate.
You try to explain something that is explained at the uni to a child and the child still would not understand.
But if you explain the same truth to the same child that in the meantime is grown up 10 or 20 years then he will understand 100%.
In other words you got to grow up your consciousness before you can grasp the idea.

There is also a history of philosophy. Unfortunately, many seem to think philosophy is a kind of bazaar where one can look for positions and opinions one might like to hold. That may be what many people do with it but that isn't philosophy.

If you stick to the real meaning of philosophy which is love for wisdom the you can not go wrong.
Where do you find wisdom?
In this physical dimension in which everything change all the time or in the inner consciousness where nothing change?

[Foxaèr]

The problem is that so-called philosophers confuse wisdom with knowledge.

[Little Rik]

And yet again enrico demonstrates just how weak his position is. When you can't justify your own position, go on the offensive and attack and insult everyone else's.
Theist debating tactics 101

If you follow the last posts from castronaut you would have noticed that he keep on asking the same question time after time again despite i already explained in a nice manner my point.
He may not like my answer but he got to stick with it.
If he does not like too bad for him but to come back again and again with the same question make him look like a child that is not happy because mummy did not buy lollies for him.
He may cry he may bang the head on the wall but if he keep on coming back and whine to me then i have no choice but to shake him off.

[Bad Wolf]

Oh i'm sorry, I must have missed the part where you did that, can you link me to it?