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The most important reason anyone is an atheist
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 (November 19, 2013 at 9:34 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(November 19, 2013 at 8:11 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: I like chewing things and I ran out of gum I do it because I was once an escapist chaser of woo. *shudders* I think I'm trying to redeem myself by saving one from the abyss. (Yeah, I know. But other than that, I got nothing for why I do it.) 
For me it's like scratching a persistant itch. I know it's only a temporary relief and it's only liable to get sore, but as long as the irritant is still there I just can't seem to fight the urge to get my nails into it. So to speak.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (November 19, 2013 at 12:17 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Who are these masters? And what did they do to impress you so much? A master in yoga is someone who reach the higher cakras or glands like the pituary or pineal gland as far as consciousness is concern. When you reach these stages you can see inside your secret box without having to open it up like in the case of physical science. Why i do know this? I have seen many demonstrations about the power of these masters. But because we still talk about this mysterious box i will tell you only about what happened to me when i was in a yoga ashram in India that related to this sort of things. I was in my 20 and as a backpacker traveling around i soon run short of money so i used to feel a bit desperate. One afternoon when everybody else were out i went in the kitchen and took some chapati (bread) and i hidden in my backpack. It was a mistake as i found out later on. When something is really needed God will always give it to you. Anyway, in the evening when the people came back i went to see one master. He did not say a thing for a few minutes then he look at me and said..........DID YOU TAKE THE CHAPATI AND HIDE IT IN YOUR BAG? Nothing else was said. I left in total shame but the thing i could not understand was how could he know what i did considering that nobody was there and considering that the age of the hidden camera was not yet come? It took me quite sometime to understand how the system works in spirituality. 
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
Enrico, can you give me some specific examples of what these yoga masters did to impress you so much. Did they levitate in the lotus position?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech  (November 22, 2013 at 10:26 am)enrico Wrote: how could he know what i did Seems like a lucky guess to me by studying your appearance. You most likely looked as though you were hungry and the logical conclusion would be to assume that your hunger drove you to an act of desperation whereby you stole bread in order to survive. There was nothing wrong with taking the bread when you obviously needed it, and I doubt the man thought you were half as guilty as you erroneously viewed yourself.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter (November 19, 2013 at 12:19 pm)Tonus Wrote:(November 19, 2013 at 10:48 am)enrico Wrote: Anecdotes my foot. I suggest you to read some books about NDE experiences like this one in which you can see references. One review say.............There are a large number of references throughout the book and in the appendices so the interested reader can check facts and delve deeper in the subject from a variety of authors and researchers. The Big Book of Near-Death Experiences http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Book-Near-...1571745475  (November 22, 2013 at 10:35 am)Kitanetos Wrote:(November 22, 2013 at 10:26 am)enrico Wrote: how could he know what i did There are million of people who think about lucky guesses but they never win at lotto or any other game. Or maybe yes but the chances to win are one in a million so why this master would ever try to guess things like this? He wouldn't gain anything from guessing. On the other hand was me that gained by making me grow up so this episode was not for showing his power but for me to understand. A master never show his-her power to convince the curious that he can know what is inside a box or anybody mind. He-she only use his power for the real progress and nothing else. Quote:There was nothing wrong with taking the bread when you obviously needed it, and I doubt the man thought you were half as guilty as you erroneously viewed yourself. Actually physically speaking i never really needed that bread as the meals provided by the ashram were enough to fill my stomach. It was a mental thing that trigger my action as the thought of a possible starvation build up a negative symptom in my mind so the words of that master were given in order to sort out my mental problems. 
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (November 22, 2013 at 11:08 am)enrico Wrote: so the words of that master were given in order to sort out my mental problems. Well his words clearly didn't
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech (November 22, 2013 at 10:45 am)pocaracas Wrote:(November 22, 2013 at 10:35 am)enrico Wrote: I suggest you to read some books about NDE experiences like this one in which you can see references.When will you people realize that NDEs are not DEs... You mean that when a doctor say that someone is dead that doctor say bullshit? The heart stop, the brain is inactive and you say that this guy is not dead? What the hell you need to say that is dead for real? Do you need to put few bullet through his brain?
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