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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 11, 2015 at 8:45 am
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(January 10, 2015 at 12:26 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (January 10, 2015 at 3:27 am)snowtracks Wrote: "@snowtracks
also heaven and hell if they both exist would to be subject to entropy."
are you forgetting something? which is - they exist outside of the physics of the universe.
No, because physics has the Spirally Purple Underscore property, which means it can affect things that exist outside the physics of the universe.
See? If you can just define a problem out of existence by fiat assertion, I can just define the problem back into existence the same way. But this shit gets us nowhere, so how about you actually, you know, justify any of the things you say?
I actually like this one, there's been a spat of this type of remark recently and I see no reason to disagree. Heaven and hell do exist outside of the physics of this universe. Which is to say that they do not exist at all, so far as we are concerned. Somewhere else or outside, relative to the universe and ourselves, is mechanically equivalent to "nowhere". No one is going to be getting there - from here, even if said nowhere exists.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 11, 2015 at 11:57 am
If heaven and hell did exist and they were not part of this universe, what would be the means to get there? There would have to be some entanglement which would then mean they ARE a part of this universe which then subjects them to the same physical laws.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 11, 2015 at 11:57 am
If heaven and hell did exist and they were not part of this universe, what would be the means to get there? There would have to be some entanglement which would then mean they ARE a part of this universe which then subjects them to the same physical laws.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 12, 2015 at 9:06 pm
(January 11, 2015 at 11:57 am)IATIA Wrote: If heaven and hell did exist and they were not part of this universe, what would be the means to get there? There would have to be some entanglement which would then mean they ARE a part of this universe which then subjects them to the same physical laws. the spirit is non-physical and as such is not subject to physical laws.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 12, 2015 at 9:12 pm
(January 12, 2015 at 9:06 pm)snowtracks Wrote: the spirit is non-physical and as such is not subject to physical laws. Everything in this universe interacts with the physical laws of this universe. If it does not follow the rules of this universe, it would be outstanding and obviously testable.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 12, 2015 at 9:20 pm
(January 10, 2015 at 12:22 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (January 10, 2015 at 3:27 am)snowtracks Wrote: "@snowtracks
also heaven and hell if they both exist would to be subject to entropy."
are you forgetting something? which is - they exist outside of the physics of the universe.
How convenient. Next, you're going to bafflegab - and fail - about how we can possibly know anything at all about them. you wouldn't if haven't taken the time to acquire spiritual discernment.
The universe exist for a purpose(s); God gives revelation thought nature (science interpretation) and scripture. Need both for the more complete explanation.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 12, 2015 at 9:42 pm
(January 12, 2015 at 9:20 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (January 10, 2015 at 12:22 pm)Stimbo Wrote: How convenient. Next, you're going to bafflegab - and fail - about how we can possibly know anything at all about them. you wouldn't if haven't taken the time to acquire spiritual discernment.
The universe exist for a purpose(s); God gives revelation thought nature (science interpretation) and scripture. Need both for the more complete explanation.
You first you have to scientifically prove that we have souls and just more than brains in motion. Also you have to have a base assertion as to why the universe has a purpose and more than cause and affect. You would also need to account that history and science proves the bible wrong.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 12, 2015 at 10:18 pm
(January 12, 2015 at 9:20 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (January 10, 2015 at 12:22 pm)Stimbo Wrote: How convenient. Next, you're going to bafflegab - and fail - about how we can possibly know anything at all about them. you wouldn't if haven't taken the time to acquire spiritual discernment.
The universe exist for a purpose(s); God gives revelation thought nature (science interpretation) and scripture. Need both for the more complete explanation.
Called it.
We aren't talking about books.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 12, 2015 at 11:24 pm
(January 12, 2015 at 9:06 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (January 11, 2015 at 11:57 am)IATIA Wrote: If heaven and hell did exist and they were not part of this universe, what would be the means to get there? There would have to be some entanglement which would then mean they ARE a part of this universe which then subjects them to the same physical laws. the spirit is non-physical and as such is not subject to physical laws.
the spirit is non-existent and as such is not subject to physical laws.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
January 12, 2015 at 11:27 pm
(January 12, 2015 at 9:06 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (January 11, 2015 at 11:57 am)IATIA Wrote: If heaven and hell did exist and they were not part of this universe, what would be the means to get there? There would have to be some entanglement which would then mean they ARE a part of this universe which then subjects them to the same physical laws. the spirit is non-physical and as such is not subject to physical laws.
Nope. Spirally Purple Underscore.
In fact, the spirit is subject to more physical laws than normal physical objects are. I just decided that.
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