Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.

[robvalue]

Just because someone can do something impressive to us, that doesn't mean anything they say about themselves or anything else is true. Why would it? If I turned up in a helicopter to primitive man and claimed to be God, by this standard they should accept that. I could equally say I'm the Loch Ness Monster or I'm a shapeshifter. I have to demonstrate these claims even if I'm packing amazing stuff.

This is the problem. No one actually has any experience of God they can demonstrate, so there is nothing to compare God to even if he showed up.

[Cato]

Later, in the briefing, the agent said the shoulder garment felt ‘velvety’, anything else you noticed? ‘yes, as we approached this thing, there was an aroma of fruit, the closer we got the more pungent it become, much like orange blossoms’.

God's fruity now? And it wasn't orange blossoms. I'm quite certain he smelt of elderberries.

[Angrboda]

Indeed yes. I should have added that. I'm so often told God wants to communicate with me, he wants to get to know me.
Fine! I'm not stopping him. I'm right here bubba, come say hi.

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Or just turn up at least. That's what existent entities do. If you're not powerful enough to say hi, or not intelligent enough to communicate with me in a way I'll understand, then too bad I guess. If you think you're above me and won't say hi, then fuck you! I'm a cool dude you know. He apparently talks to other people, so he should be able to manage it with me.
I'll carry on with my life, living it as best I can. I don't feel the need to bow down to anyone, least of all someone who hides from me.

If he wants to come play Street Fighter 2 then that would be cool actually.

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Words of the Bible and the facts of nature come from the same source, from God himself, who chose to make himself known.

How do you know the words of the bible came from God?

Consider this scene. -

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If a physical entity with the appearance of personhood were to materialize on the white house lawn and while saying “I’m God” (loud enough that it was recorded) levitated a foot above the ground, would that constitute proof that God is not hidden?
As the secret service approached, this entity asked one agent to place his hand onto the entity’s shoulder which the agent did thus making the entity to disappear. Later, in the briefing, the agent said the shoulder garment felt ‘velvety’, anything else you noticed? ‘yes, as we approached this thing, there was an aroma of fruit, the closer we got the more pungent it become, much like orange blossoms’.

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What is your point here snowy?

[LostLocke]

God is not revealed directly through the five senses

Another loophole.

[Cyberman]

Bacchus is revealed directly through my sense of thirst, so there's one way he beats this pissant little god.

[Hatshepsut]

I don't feel the need to bow down to anyone...

You may tell them to rise, then.  

...as we approached this thing, there was an aroma of fruit, the closer we got the more pungent it become, much like orange blossoms.

Or elderberries if Cato's right. I'm just disappointed it wasn't myrrh from the Land of Punt.  

The idea that anything possible must therefore exist collapses under its own absurd weight.  It would require a universe to contain
its own power set and that is impossible whether the universe is finite or infinite.

Indeed, as even for the lowly empty set ø which has no elements, the power set is {ø}, a set containing one element. Or were you thinking of Bertrand Russell's "set of all sets which aren't elements of themselves," a famous set that includes the Barber of Seville?  

[snowtracks]

Words of the Bible and the facts of nature come from the same source, from God himself, who chose to make himself known.

How do you know the words of the bible came from God?

Consider this scene. -

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If a physical entity with the appearance of personhood were to materialize on the white house lawn and while saying “I’m God” (loud enough that it was recorded) levitated a foot above the ground, would that constitute proof that God is not hidden?
As the secret service approached, this entity asked one agent to place his hand onto the entity’s shoulder which the agent did thus making the entity to disappear. Later, in the briefing, the agent said the shoulder garment felt ‘velvety’, anything else you noticed? ‘yes, as we approached this thing, there was an aroma of fruit, the closer we got the more pungent it become, much like orange blossoms’.

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What is your point here snowy?

that the physical entity claiming to be God that can do the miraculous (as detected directly through the five senses) wouldn't prove the existence of God. The poster indicated a personal visit would convince him.

[snowtracks]

Words of the Bible and the facts of nature come from the same source, from God himself, who chose to make himself known.

How do you know the words of the bible came from God?

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Consider this scene. -
 
If a physical entity with the appearance of personhood were to materialize on the white house lawn and while saying “I’m God” (loud enough that it was recorded) levitated a foot above the ground, would that constitute proof that God is not hidden?
As the secret service approached, this entity asked one agent to place his hand onto the entity’s shoulder which the agent did thus making the entity to disappear. Later, in the briefing, the agent said the shoulder garment felt ‘velvety’, anything else you noticed? ‘yes, as we approached this thing, there was an aroma of fruit, the closer we got the more pungent it become, much like orange blossoms’.

What is your point here snowy?

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God’s two revelations (Scripture and nature) will agree when properly interpreted. For instance, Scripture states the heavens are spreading out like the unfolding of a tent; we now know we exist on the surface of a four dimensional universe that's expanding.

[downbeatplumb]

Ah the old interpretation gambit.

The thing with vague poetic writing as seen in the holy texts is that they can be interpreted to fit many things and then there is the cherry picking to get one that kinda sorta seems to match facts if you squint and look at them sideways.

Colour me unimpressed.

[ignoramus]

That's where Nostradamus was cleverer!
He wrote stories in the same style as above of things that hadn't happened yet.

Almost like he wanted people to make his stories fit the fact after the fact.