Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.

[robvalue]

I've heard some people say they want to "test their faith", but then their idea of a test is requesting we disprove an unfalsifiable proposition. So they have made themselves feel better that there is some way they could be "proved wrong", without having to worry about it actually being possible. This displays either a lack of understanding of how claims work, or ruthless dishonesty. The more times the first option is explained, the less reason I have to think that is the problem.

So I'll say again, a claim is worthless unless there is some actual way it can be reasonably demonstrated to be wrong. Otherwise, it is just mere unsupported speculation. If it can't be demonstrated to be wrong, it also cannot be demonstrated to be right, since the direct opposite claim is also unfalsifiable. So by admission, the person making the claim is making an arbitrary choice. It's nothing more than a guess on a multiple choice paper. And just because it's a guess, that does not mean it is 50/50. Just because we don't know if something is true or not, it does not mean it's as likely as not to be true. For example, I just rolled a die. Did I get a 6? You don't know if I got a six, do its 50/50 right? What's that? We use what we know about the world to assign probabilities? There you go.

[ignoramus]

[robvalue]

Ah. Well, in that case, do whatever you want I guess. Just don't hurt other people while you're doing it or I come lay the logic smack down.

[Tonus]

C'mon, tell me that doesn't sound exactly like one of those chatbots advertising webcam models. The same semi-literate English, the obligatory link to an outside source that you didn't ask for and have no interest in, even the same lazy, repetitive three-line structure!

All it's missing is "you'll need to enter a credit card number to see it, baby..."

Except in snowtracks' case, the gaping hole and wet, sucking sounds are indicative of a different kind of perversion.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

So when you look out into space and see galaxies all around you in every direction you're actually seeing something that resembles a flat pancake instead of something like the inside of a sphere?  

Yes, because we are inside the universe and don't have the perspective from outside as diagram depicted. The 'flat pancake' has 4 dim's so viewing from the inside may give a sphere perspective.

OK, so how far out in the void from the universe would you have to go to see the universe as a flat object?  Is it possible that gravity has several independent and discrete properties?

[snowtracks]

Yes, because we are inside the universe and don't have the perspective from outside as diagram depicted. The 'flat pancake' has 4 dim's so viewing from the inside may give a sphere perspective.

OK, so how far out in the void from the universe would you have to go to see the universe as a flat object?  Is it possible that gravity has several independent and discrete properties?

The 2 dimensional depiction of the accelerating universe shows a ‘void’ (*blue background, reposted.) which is non-existent to our senses or instrumentations since it is non-dimensional or extra-dimensional, and not part of the universe; therefore we can’t view the universe’s geometrical shape. The galaxies are located on the 4 dimensional cosmic surface. Perhaps an analogy for perspective: If sea creatures never saw above the water's surface, they wouldn’t ever see the ‘flatness’ of the surface.

* https://www.ras.org.uk/publictions/other...t-universe
Advance life needed a flat universe so that the universe last long enough for stars to spew-out heavy elements needed for advanced life; and expands slow enough so that gravity can form galaxies rather than neutron stars.

In that connection, This quote from - The Grand Design - “Were it not for a series of starting coincidences in seems, human and similar life-forms would never have come into being.”*
* https://books.google.com/books?id=vfFhxY...&q&f=false

[Wyrd of Gawd]

OK, so how far out in the void from the universe would you have to go to see the universe as a flat object?  Is it possible that gravity has several independent and discrete properties?

The 2 dimensional depiction of the accelerating universe shows a ‘void’ (*blue background, reposted.) which is non-existent to our senses or instrumentations since it is non-dimensional or extra-dimensional, and not part of the universe; therefore we can’t view the universe’s geometrical shape. The galaxies are located on the 4 dimensional cosmic surface. Perhaps an analogy for perspective: If sea creatures never saw above the water's surface, they wouldn’t ever see the ‘flatness’ of the surface.

* https://www.ras.org.uk/publictions/other...t-universe
Advance life needed a flat universe so that the universe last long enough for stars to spew-out heavy elements needed for advanced life; and expands slow enough so that gravity can form galaxies rather than neutron stars.

In that connection, This quote from - The Grand Design - “Were it not for a series of starting coincidences in seems, human and similar life-forms would never have come into being.”*
* https://books.google.com/books?id=vfFhxY...&q&f=false

So in which direction is the universe flat?  Where's its top surface?

[IATIA]

There is a god and we cannot see it or prove it, but it is there because the bible says so.

Now we have a disk shaped universe that we cannot see or prove, but it is there because the bible says so.

The bible also says a borg ship will be coming to take all you morons away.

I cannot wait, when is this rapture?

[Cyberman]

For all its lunacy, the rapture is perfectly named. That's exactly what we'll all feel if it really was to happen.

[Anomalocaris]

For all its lunacy, the rapture is perfectly named. That's exactly what we'll all feel if it really was to happen.

I am unlikely to find it orgasmic.