Converting from islam any help?

[Aractus]

^ Oh would you shut up already?

[sofia86]

No I'm not claiming that muslims think mohammed is special, I'm asking if I'm right in thinking that most muslims think that the qur'an is the final revelation and god no longer speaks to mankind. With new information.

Yes, you are right to think that.

And I was informing you that wasn't the only thing that many Muslims accepted. There is one fact that made many Muslims crazy.

They believe in other religion books other than Qur'an. These books are called hadith in general. Believed to contain sayings of prophet Muhammad. The nonsenses come from Hadiths, not al Qur'an. But too often people equate the "sayings of prophet" a.k.a nonsenses to Islam. Which isn't true.

[Mstricky]

There is no doubt in my mind that the OP is not a muslim. Sounds like naughty teenager on here for laughs

[Mister Agenda]

Hi there!
I'm sick and tired of Islam. It's so evil & mean towards non believers also unfair to women. My parents are punjabi pakistani's by their parents, they pray 5 times a day, fast. But they ask me to pray and I say that I'm still learning. I just want to get out of this trash whole religion, Christianity isn't any different but at least Jesus Christ didn't have sex with an 6 year old when he was 55 like mohammed did. I'm still young so i can't move out. I just want some help & advice, thanks.

What others have said about being safe, I concur.

However, it is not a requirement of Islam that you believe Asha was six when Mohammed had sex with her. That's a Sunni thing. Sunnis are in the majority, but they empahsize Asha's youth to make it more impressive that Mohammed's teachings were passed through her. In other words, it's political, to undermine the Shia position on how Mohammed's teachings were transmitted. Shia scholars estimate Asha's age as more likely being in her late teens when her marriage was consummated. No one can honestly say that they really know what was actually the case on this matter.

I'm not encouraging you to stay in Islam, but if you'd stay a Muslim if only it was more fair to women, was kinder to nonbelievers, and did a better job of advocating peace; you might want to take a look at Islamic Modernism in the Ottoman Empire. A century ago, Muslim intellectuals wanted the benefits of democracy and equality for the Islamic world. The movement failed because the empire collapsed and its fragments were conquered by Europeans, so the question went from 'how can we be like the West?' to 'how can we resist the West?'. Islam is not inherently illiberal, especially if you drop the hadiths as authoritative. There are modern liberal movements within Islam today. They probably have Facebook pages.

If you're attracted to freethinking/humanism, that's great. If it's more of a matter of not liking Islamic fundamentalism, you don't have to throw out Islam completely to not be a fundamentalist.

[Cyberman]

Welcome to the new guy! Cutting through all the verbiage and detritus that's built up so far, I shall share with you a piece of advice that was given to me by a very good friend in my own time of crisis: "Never follow any advice that doesn't feel right to you - including this". Other than that, read, think, learn, but above all question.

And don't touch the Marmite; that's mine.