Things I learned in church

[T.J.]

Just thought I would share some quotes from Christians I have interacted with that still to this day stands out in my mind. Even theists that I have shared these with have done double takes at them so I'm really interested to see what you guys think about these.

Good people go to hell, saved people go to heaven.

I was told this by the pastor of the baptist church I went to. It's interesting to me because usually they'll justify it by saying the people have done bad things, but he is actually bold enough to use the word good. But wait, there's more:

Satan doesn't torture people in hell, God does.

I wish I was joking. This is usually where they blame Satan. Not this time. The idea that God tortures people for eternity for not believing in him isn't too much of a stretch if you researched the old testament. He isn't exactly shy about getting his hands dirty. But the idea that there are people who actually accepts it is kind of terrifying...

People will believe anything to avoid the truth.

This speaks for itself.

Global Warming doesn't exist because there's no proof that it does.

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Harry Potter is bad, he breaks the rules and gets his friends in trouble and magic is bad. Also, wizards are fighting other wizards, a house divided against itself cannot stand.

Paraphrasing since I can't remember the exact quote, but still. Huh? 1.) It's a work of fiction. 2.) Was there really a need to throw the bible quote in there?

Lesson: how to witness to cults

Okay, this sounds interesting. What do you got?

Cults: Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Muslims, Wiccans

one man's cult is another man's religion.

People who believe in evolution are only throwing mud at the wall in the hopes that it sticks.

If that's them winging it I DO NOT want to see them when they're using their brains.

So, thoughts? Comments? Have anyone heard similar lines before or have their own they would like to share? Floor's open.

[Lion IRC]

I hear tons of things I disagree with.
I'd hardly call that "learning".

[Brakeman]

Good people go to hell, saved people go to heaven.

"Satan doesn't torture people in hell, God does."

So if god gives mankind the "equal to god level" ability to judge right or wrong, and we say that there are good people that god will send to hell, then by definition, god is an evil monster.

How does god "let go?" I mean, according to the story, god created everything and his "energy" powers everything. So if Hell is burning a person, it was god that made the fire, the heat, the pain, and it is him that tells the torture victim's brain to scream in agony. He can't divorce himself from his own "god powered" creation.

Ahh, But christians can't see the obvious.

[Einharjar]

[T.J.]

I should probably put a time stamp on this, these were all things I heard back in 2005/2006, but it wouldn't surprise if they did still consider Harry Potter a threat. One guy got mad at me one time for dressing up as Harry Potter for Halloween.

To their credit they actually did encourage us to go out and research these other religions, and even Evolution, ourselves before we even thought about discussing these things.

[Drich]

[Kitan Etos]

I hear tons of things I disagree with.
I'd hardly call that "learning".

Because you refuse to learn.

[DLJ]

Lesson: how to witness to cults

I think this one might have been a typo.

hock:

[T.J.]

why does it have to be one or the other? Why couldn't both have happened?

It's hard to accept both when they contradict each other. Unless you just mean putting a god at the front of it all, which I'll admit is possible. But at the same time it's just as possible that the universe has always been. This is one of many reasons I find myself at a crossroads.

Just saw the link. I'll have to give that a read later.

[Mystical]