I see no way this could ever backfire!

[Drich]

.....So your 'thoughts' are to force North Koreans obedience in their state mandated worship of their 'great leader' as God? To not allow them the material needed to question the authority nor the deity of Kim li sung , or his progeny?

Wow... I can tell you and your peers really thought this one out.

Yes, because if I don't want one thing to happen, I must logically want the exact opposite to happen!

Oh wait no because that's really fucking stupid.

If you were capable of nuance, you'd understand my actual position, which is that this bible drop is nothing more than self aggrandizing piety porn on the part of the christians involved, and that rather than actually having an effect on a dictatorship that we all agree should be disassembled, it actually poses a direct threat to the people likely to receive these bibles.

Do you read posts before you disagree with them, or does your nonbeliever antenna just come up when you look at the religious beliefs of the poster, and decide for you?

I saw the hamster starting to turn the wheel, but then it stopped to defend it's self righteous position.

IF the North Koreans are under threat of death for worship any other 'god' besides members of the Kim family, and we can all agree there is a need for 'change' Then how is change going to be possiable if not under the threat of death? These poor people live under a bastardized version of a theocracy, and have lived that way in one form or another since initial invasion of Japan in 1910.
Not to force you to think too much, but I will ask you anyways, How do you suppose that a people who have lived under emperial theocratic rule for the 100 years or so get to the point where they mandate change without putting their lives at risk.. Now before you give some hippy answer understand that if you object to the goverment control/deity of the great leader then your put into a forced labor camp just like the jews were in Nazi controled germany.

So the problem remains if ALL avenues of free thought are forbiden, and these people only know life under a theocracy, ask yourself what is the best way to effect change in that country if China is backing the current leadership and wont allow anyone to say boo about them? Change if it happens will only happen from within. If it doesn't these poor brainwashed people will fight to defend their 'god' down to the last man woman and child, just like the japs were ready to do in WWII, and Like their grandparents did in the first Korean conflict.

Unless they can identify their leader as a false God they will have no reason to even want change let alone embrace it when it happens. In the end no matter what happens unless things stay the same many many north Koreans will die. The only question is will they die looking to better themselves or will they die trying to defend their current beliefs?

[Minimalist]

Yup. Nothing stupider than a fucking xtian.

Opportunist

But...they give so many opportunities.

[max-greece]

Excellent reply Drich.

Just one tiny problem. Its the Bible that was dropped - a more useless document for the purpose has yet to be written. The word democracy, or even republic does not, as far as I am aware, appear in its pages. There are, however, plenty of references to governing authorities:

Romans 13:1-7

"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ..."

Titus 3:1

"Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work..."

1 Timothy 2:1-2

"First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way."

Matthew 22:21

They said, “Caesar's.” Then he said to them, “Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.”

There's more, of course, but lets face it - when the powers that be in North Korea read that shit they will be laughing all the way to the throne room.

[T.J.]

My first thought was, "How the hell did they get in North Korea's airspace without getting shot down!?" But that could be the spoonfed conservative in me speaking. The next thought was this is putting those people in danger since it's A.) illegal and practicing said religion can get them thrown in prison and their family thrown in prison so this media coverage isn't the most discrete way to go about smuggling bibles into another country.

[Drich]

Excellent reply Drich.

Just one tiny problem. Its the Bible that was dropped - a more useless document for the purpose has yet to be written. The word democracy, or even republic does not, as far as I am aware, appear in its pages. There are, however, plenty of references to governing authorities:

Romans 13:1-7

"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. ..."

Titus 3:1

"Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work..."

1 Timothy 2:1-2

"First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way."

Matthew 22:21

They said, “Caesar's.” Then he said to them, “Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.”

There's more, of course, but lets face it - when the powers that be in North Korea read that shit they will be laughing all the way to the throne room.

It also says: "You shall have no other God before me... " Their 'great leader' fancies himself a god. At the very least They will have a decision to make for themselves.

[Captain Colostomy]

I have the 700 Club on currently(can't find the goddamned remote). They were mentioning the regime murders in N. Korea due to bible ownership. Of course, Pat's spin seems to be the persecution of xtians angle only. I guess a bloody body clutching a Koran can rot in hell.

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Drich- the decision you think they got is no better than dropping a single shot pistol into the lap of a famine victim. Praise Jaysus! Starve slow, or die quick.

[max-greece]

"It also says: "You shall have no other God before me... " Their 'great leader' fancies himself a god. At the very least They will have a decision to make for themselves."

Useless too I am afraid.

"You shall have no other God before me," is not the same as "I am the only God - all the others are fakes."

Their Great Leader will simply point that out and tell them that he is another God. Looking at the other quotes I provided the "great leader" will probably allow Christians to worship theirs on the basis of their total subservience to his rule - and then only if the movement became a threat.

Of course Christians would hail this as a great victory - the rest of us, however......still look upon the despot with despair.

[pocaracas]

What if those things fall on someone's head?
What if they fall on top of some kid?

Think of the children!!!

[Anomalocaris]

Bible is worth much less than the cost of nurishing stunted North Korean children, and that savings is vital for the more important christian duty of lining the pockets of lick penny pastors.

Besides, unstunting North Korean children might give them the intelligence in adulthood to show up idiot christian proselytizers, and how would christains avail themselves of the complacent feeling of being the saved ones then?

[Minimalist]

So the problem remains if ALL avenues of free thought are forbiden

You should try some of those avenues of free thought, Drippy. Put down your stupid fucking bible and think a little.