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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
November 18, 2013 at 10:02 am
You are absolutely right. Baghdad was pristine until the Mongol invasion. I had my cities mixed up in my head, but I looked it up and got things straight. No, the real loss was the library at Alexandria that Caliph Omar ordered to be destroyed. That was before Baghdad.
But, like my earlier caveat said, those who were responsible for the renaissance were scholars that happened to be Muslims. Islam isn't necessarily the reason they were intellectually enlightened; Baghdad's location as a central hub to the world had everything to do with how they needed to be more open to new thoughts and ideas. Otherwise they would have remained a bunch of assholes like Caliph Omar.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
November 18, 2013 at 10:10 am
(November 18, 2013 at 9:37 am)Sleepy Wrote: The Europeans learne a lot and now are the hub of the technological world. If there was peace in the Middle East without conflicted being started by western backed Al Qaeda. The zionists, Saudi Arabia, and other gulf states. There would be peace because those Arab gulf states are backwards. Perhaps it's a tribal thing, like Africans... not entirely related to the religion itself... but the muslim countries tend to be a bit stuck in the 17th century...
(November 18, 2013 at 9:37 am)Sleepy Wrote: Iran is not perfect either. But it is the most free country in the world not controlled by Zionist Rothschild. Jews and Christians live there peacefully. The Jewish community in Iran is against the zionists and the killing of innocents in Palestine. There is a Jewish person in the parliament an they are guaranteed a spot in the Iranian constitution as are Christians. Jews have their own synagogues and Jewish schools that teach Hebrew. Don believe the lies and propaganda. Oh, I guess you're iranian... 
I once met an iranian guy... he told me that, if I would go there, I couldn't wear a t-shirt... actually, no short sleeves at all. long sleeves only... I sweat a lot. I suffer with heat. I wouldn't do well there without my shorts and t-shirts... hence, I don't go.
You see how a particular country is automatically removed from potential destinations? Does that mean it's the most free country in the world? I don't think so.
(November 18, 2013 at 9:37 am)Sleepy Wrote: If you want to drown in materialistic, capitalistic, self indulging, consumerist, greed filled, purposeless atheist lives than that is for on you. You can deny Allah is there but you denying it doesn't make Him go away.
West- make women sex objects, role models like Miley Cyrus on stage, good girls turn trashy too ideology, called bitches and dancing naked for the white elitist ideology
Islam- women have property rights, the basic dress code for women rigs immediate respect, the only where the woman doesn't to have the veil is in gatherings of women only, an aroud her husband, brother, father. Imagine your sisters having that respect and not bein looked at as a sex object everywhere. Or your mothers.Mind blown huh?
Are you really claiming it's better for women to be veiled instead of being allowed to dress as they please?
If they wish to be dresses as sexual objects, then so be it; if they wish to be dressed in potato sacks, then so be it...
Why is it better to restrict, instead of allow each individual to use his/her best judgement on fashion and to express themselves?
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
November 18, 2013 at 10:44 am
I never said Islam was the reason for the enlightenment. I was responding to the individuals that said Muslims have always been backward and also specifically ask 1200's when Muslims were excelling in every field
Muslim society has been hijacked by British agents, an tools such as Saudi Arabia which promote extremism an in return get weapons and protection to maintain their illegitimate kingdoms. They are responsible for the problems in the Muslim world. Otherwise Muslims would be the most capable people on earth as they were before. Omar is an enemy if Muslims so he did do insane thing such as that.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
November 18, 2013 at 10:51 am
So the British agents are promoting extremism and giving the muslims weapons and protection for their land so that the muslims can attack other countries including Britain? It makes perfect sense! (I said that last bit sarcastically just in case you didn't get it).
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
November 18, 2013 at 10:57 am
You forgot the part where there's an elitist, ultra capitalist, secular, insane Zionist at the too that doesn't care for innocent people. It cares about having as many venues open for people to indulge themselves in and stay distracted and consuming within.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
November 18, 2013 at 10:58 am
You weren't responding to people when you said that Islam was the religion of wisdom and knowledge, the first post that you posted on this forum was titled Islam IS the true religion of humanity and in the first post you made statements about Islamic contributions to science.
My point is that if you believe scientific achievement is related to religious beliefs being true then why have you neglected to mention that a lot of other civilizations with different religions have contributed a lot to science.
And as for blaming the jews and other governments for Islams downfall, if they were so wise and knowledgeable why did they not see it coming, before world war 2 and before America was even an independent country I'm pretty sure the British had superior technology to any Islamic country.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
November 18, 2013 at 10:59 am
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2013 at 11:16 am by Sleepy.)
There not giving Muslims weapons.
They're giving weapons to the Arab kingdoms that are illegitimate weapons if they do their bidding and support groups such as Al Qaeda and Taliban which is common knowledge was formed by western powers during the soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
The Muslims won the crusades. It's a different version of the crusades because western governments fear Muslim unity
There was a document I just saw online with sources that documented british plots to divide Muslims to enhance their and western power and to prevent Muslim unity. The British are indeed very clever.
No other culture/religious group create libraries as large as the Muslims. The biggest gathering of knowledge ever and compiling was for by the Muslims. And then they exponentially expounded on that knowledge. That was done by Allah's blessing and the fact that knowledge and wisdom is stressed heavily in Islam
The Prophet Muhammad SAW says: “One who wishes to see those who are safe from the Fire of Hell should look at the seekers of knowledge”.
Quran 22:46
"So have they not traveled through the earth and have hearts by which to reason and ears by which to hear? For indeed, it is not eyes that are blinded, but blinded are the hearts which are within the breasts."
I never blamed the Jews or thee governments. The Europeans started to out do the Muslims in technology about about 1600-1700s
But they didn't give women any property rights until 1800's and that too was on a small scale. What they are responsible for is their little buffer Zionist state they've created an the terrorist groups.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
November 18, 2013 at 12:27 pm
(November 18, 2013 at 10:59 am)Sleepy Wrote: There was a document I just saw online with sources that documented british plots to divide Muslims to enhance their and western power and to prevent Muslim unity. The British are indeed very clever.
WHAT!!! Did you hack into MI5 or something?!?!
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
November 18, 2013 at 12:47 pm
Quote:Muslim society has been hijacked by British agents,
Sunni and shiite assholes have been merrily murdering each other since the 7-8th century. The "British" did not do that. The "British" did not even exist at the time.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
November 18, 2013 at 12:57 pm
(November 12, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Islam is the religion of science, knowledge, wisdom.
Read some history. The entire Renaissance was founded because of the Islamic Golden Age. I'm guessing you don't mean this then?
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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