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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 14, 2013 at 9:45 pm
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How do you know there is a God and how do you know there is just one God and not multiple ones?
The miracles of Allah are all around us. Jinn( his other creations) are also existent. I can't bring Him in front of anybody, only He can summon everybody on His will.
Define Greatest. Greatest in what sense?
The Most Majestic. The Most Exalted. The Most Wise. There is nothing greater or more powerful than the Creator as everything is His creation.
First of all how do you know he is merciful and what do you base that assessment on?
113 out of 114 of the Holy Quran begin with Bismillah-hir-Rahman-nir-Rahim ( "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful" )
Quran 5:74
"So will they not repent to Allah and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
Quran 21:47 "And We place the scales of justice for the Day of Resurrection, so no soul will be treated unjustly at all. And if there is [even] the weight of a mustard seed, We will bring it forth. And sufficient are We as accountant."
Every thing will come into account. Allah does not forget even the smallest of good deeds, those that even have the weight of a mustard seed.
Quran 39:53
Say, "O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah . Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful.""
Allah can forgive all and any type of sins if the sincerity is there. There is always a chance.
Many people on this Earth when you commit a wrong they will bring it up later. Allah forgives and gives you multiple chances. He is the Most Merciful. Wow
What do you mean by saying that I am still in his hands? That he can see my future? Or something else?
Your life is always in His hands. He can take it away if he likes. He knows your future. You don't exist independent of Him. You are His creation as we all are.
So should we try to prevent evil from happening or should we not? Because if we do we interfere with Gods test of that person we are trying to prevent evil happening to.
Also what is the purpose of this test?
You're supposed to take a stand against tyranny always. You don't let a tyrant do whatever he/she wants. Allah does not create evil.
If you're a good person you will most likely go to heaven...except those that are atheists.
Atheists reject Allah, and Allah deals with the disbelievers strictly and justly.
Atheists on here have save the worst types of names, there is no place for that nor are they on the level of any of the righteous.
First of all why do you say "most likely" don't you know for sure if good people will go to heaven or not?
Those who are righteous do not have to worry. It would be not in any person's place to set a guarantee as he is not the one who decides. Only Allah sets absolutes. If I say you will go to heaven, it doesn't matter what I say but only what Allah says and if you are righteous most likely Allah will allow that person into heaven
On what conditions do people go to heaven?
Good deeds, belief in God( Jews, Christians, Sabeans, maybe others as only Allah is Most Wise and Most Merciful)
How is it religion of science when in science you take nothing on faith but must prove things?
Islam encourages gaining knowledge, advancements in science for the benefit of humanity and the Quran has science references as well though it is not a textbook. It a Book to guide humanity.
It's up to you to buy a Quran, read it for yourself and visit a local mosque preferable one that is a Shia mosque.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 14, 2013 at 10:18 pm
Quote:Time does not affect Allah.
Yeah....time does not affect Donald Duck, either.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 14, 2013 at 10:30 pm
I would answer but damn I answered these sorts of arguments 100 times now. See you got all info from the quran which must be proven to be true first. You think there is one god because of things you see around you but you don't explain how those things prove gods existence let alone that the quran is true.
As of mercy seems like atheism is the only thing which cannot be forgiven like it's the worst thing possible. I can argue that there are worse things then atheism but I won't bother with that.
As for Allah not creating evil you say that we all are his creation and he knows everything we will do and he created everything. Which pretty much means he made us and set the plan for all of us including those who will do evil things.
You conclude that he is merciful only because he said so in the quran. That circle argument.
Just because somebody says he is merciful does not mean he is just because he says so.
Anyway I'm done. Have fun.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 14, 2013 at 10:36 pm
(December 14, 2013 at 9:45 pm)Sleepy Wrote: The miracles of Allah are all around us. Jinn( his other creations) are also existent. I can't bring Him in front of anybody, only He can summon everybody on His will.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 14, 2013 at 11:00 pm
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Ok, Sleepy will apologize to Atheists for his stupidity after reading this post. Atheists occupy the highest rank among unbelievers from the Muslim's point of view because they declare: " There is no God".
Without realizing, they have said half of the Islamic Shahada, making them, 50% Muslims. They just need to add " but Allah" to become 100% Muslims. In fact, atheists do NOT commit Shirk. They can go to Janna, although the chances are very small from the Muslim point of view, but they can STILL enter Janna, because Allah may forgive any sin but the sin of Shirk. Shirk is associating other parties with God, polytheism or idol worship. Atheists do not associate any party with God, because they claim that there is no God. Does the Qur'an say Atheists go to Hell? No. Who says so? Sleepy.
Islam likes atheists because they are easier to convert. With idol worshipers, first Muslims have to prove to them that the God they worship is wrong, Christians are the worst from their point of view. But an atheist...he makes their job so easy because there's no need to prove anything as such. Muslims say that Atheists are smart enough to question themselves and not believe in just about anything. From the Muslim point of view they are the CLOSEST to enlightenment. The CLOSEST and MOST SUPERIOR of all unbelievers.
Ahmed Deedat below CONGRATULATES Atheists! Without realizing it, Sleepy is preaching against Islam and against the prophet! He deserves a slap on his right cheek, from whom? Not from Atheists, from Ahmed Deedat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU-YFwT9g9c
He may not listen to us, but if he doesn't listen to Sheikh Ahmed Deedat he'll be in big fucking trouble with respect to his chances to go to Janna so I'll summarize the standard operating procedure when dealing with Atheists:
1) Congratulate the Atheist.
2) Try to make the Atheist say "but Allah" and believe in the Qur'an.
I say, this rubbish, ill-educated man called Sleepy OWES US AN APOLOGY.
Apologize before us...you stupid man, or defy the words of Sheikh Ahmed Deedat and see where it leads you to.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 12:43 am
Christians and Jews are better than atheists as they accept many of the Prophets of Allah and worship Allah as well. They are higher than atheists. Islam does not like atheists. Just read the Holy Quran, that will be best for you
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 12:44 am
Wow, here I went to bed convinced that during the night Nineteen or Sleepy would have provided proof of my abuse of mod powers, but I guess they'd rather just sweep that under the rug and pretend it never happened! Sorry, but that's a ride I'd like to take all the way down, fellows: I'm not at home with hit and run besmirchings of my reputation.
So, you got anything real, lady? Or is this just going to be another entirely fabricated assertion, like every quote from your holy book?
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 12:48 am
So uneducated! They will pretend nothing ever happened.
I have lost faith in humanity again.
So, do the mountains hold together the planet? Because the Koran specifically states this!
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 4:45 am
(December 14, 2013 at 9:45 pm)Sleepy Wrote: How do you know there is a God and how do you know there is just one God and not multiple ones?
The miracles of Allah are all around us. Jinn( his other creations) are also existent. I can't bring Him in front of anybody, only He can summon everybody on His will.
Define Greatest. Greatest in what sense?
The Most Majestic. The Most Exalted. The Most Wise. There is nothing greater or more powerful than the Creator as everything is His creation.
First of all how do you know he is merciful and what do you base that assessment on?
113 out of 114 of the Holy Quran begin with Bismillah-hir-Rahman-nir-Rahim ( "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful" )
Quran 5:74
"So will they not repent to Allah and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."
Quran 21:47 "And We place the scales of justice for the Day of Resurrection, so no soul will be treated unjustly at all. And if there is [even] the weight of a mustard seed, We will bring it forth. And sufficient are We as accountant."
Every thing will come into account. Allah does not forget even the smallest of good deeds, those that even have the weight of a mustard seed.
Quran 39:53
Say, "O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah . Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful.""
Allah can forgive all and any type of sins if the sincerity is there. There is always a chance.
Many people on this Earth when you commit a wrong they will bring it up later. Allah forgives and gives you multiple chances. He is the Most Merciful. Wow
What do you mean by saying that I am still in his hands? That he can see my future? Or something else?
Your life is always in His hands. He can take it away if he likes. He knows your future. You don't exist independent of Him. You are His creation as we all are.
So should we try to prevent evil from happening or should we not? Because if we do we interfere with Gods test of that person we are trying to prevent evil happening to.
Also what is the purpose of this test?
You're supposed to take a stand against tyranny always. You don't let a tyrant do whatever he/she wants. Allah does not create evil.
If you're a good person you will most likely go to heaven...except those that are atheists.
Atheists reject Allah, and Allah deals with the disbelievers strictly and justly.
Atheists on here have save the worst types of names, there is no place for that nor are they on the level of any of the righteous.
First of all why do you say "most likely" don't you know for sure if good people will go to heaven or not?
Those who are righteous do not have to worry. It would be not in any person's place to set a guarantee as he is not the one who decides. Only Allah sets absolutes. If I say you will go to heaven, it doesn't matter what I say but only what Allah says and if you are righteous most likely Allah will allow that person into heaven
On what conditions do people go to heaven?
Good deeds, belief in God( Jews, Christians, Sabeans, maybe others as only Allah is Most Wise and Most Merciful)
How is it religion of science when in science you take nothing on faith but must prove things?
Islam encourages gaining knowledge, advancements in science for the benefit of humanity and the Quran has science references as well though it is not a textbook. It a Book to guide humanity.
It's up to you to buy a Quran, read it for yourself and visit a local mosque preferable one that is a Shia mosque.
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(December 14, 2013 at 9:45 pm)Sleepy Wrote: That is the habit of the deceitful. Attempt to use long paragraphs to stay in denial of the truth.
lol
(June 19, 2013 at 3:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Most Gays have a typical behavior of rejecting religions, because religions consider them as sinners (In Islam they deserve to be killed) (June 19, 2013 at 3:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I think you are too idiot to know the meaning of idiot for example you have a law to prevent boys under 16 from driving do you think that all boys under 16 are careless and cannot drive properly
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 15, 2013 at 5:11 am
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(December 14, 2013 at 9:24 pm)Sleepy Wrote: In fact there are many health benefits of namaz( prayer) You can look it up all online. Countless health and physical benefits.
Interestingly and famously, when prayer was subjected to double blind tests by the religiously motivated Templeton Foundation regarding patients recovering from serious surgery, those that were being prayed for without their knowledge fared no better than those who weren't at all. Worse, the ones who were told they were being prayed for actually were worse off, suffering more complications and relapses.
(December 14, 2013 at 9:24 pm)Sleepy Wrote: It's illogical for Christians to consider Jesus as God because in that same verse Jesus is asking God to do something because he cannot do it. Yet they are the same individual? It's nonsensical. He is a Prophet of Allah.
Yes, those other religious texts are absurd and contradictory; tell us something else we don't know. That still doesn't make your pet stories look good. Setting horse shit against a background of bullshit doesn't suddenly make the horse shit look like a diamond.
(December 14, 2013 at 9:24 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Another thing is look at any picture of Mary PBUH in a church. What is she wearing on her head?
The hijab.
This may come as a shock to you, but paintings are not photographs. Mary is also depicted as having a big circle around her head. What's that supposed to be - the Colgate ring of minty-fresh confidence? Somebody won her at a fair? A piercing gone horribly wrong? Or is she planning on simply walking into Mordor?
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