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RE: The Universe and Big Bang
November 21, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Two of every animal and seven of some, remember, according to Mosaic dietary laws which - er - hadn't been written yet. Nevertheless, many species were apparently wiped out once the Arkonauts made landfall and burned those offerings.
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RE: The Universe and Big Bang
November 21, 2013 at 2:14 pm
(November 21, 2013 at 1:39 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: (November 21, 2013 at 1:21 pm)super spidey man Wrote: I do but tell what about the story you think is ridiculous .
This has been done to death but you are new here so i'll go over the main points.
First, the flood, there is no evidence of a world wide flood. Where did the water come from? Where did it go?
Secondly, pretty much every species of animal that couldn't swim, was on that ark. The ark would have had to have been impossible big to fit all the animals on and have enough food for all of them and the humans aboard. How did the humans manage to feed all the animals, remove their waste and feed themselves. There was only like 10 people aboard right? How did they survive with no fresh water?. Why did the animals not eat each other?.Also how did all the animals get there? How for example did the sloth manage to crawl all the way there in time to get aboard. Also 2 of every animal right? So then why is there no evidence of a genetic bottleneck all of the species alive today?
I will be extremely surprised if you can answer all of these questions without saying goddidit or resorting to magic, but you are entitled to try.
Ok, I thought you were going to say that. But the flood wasn't world wide that wouldn't make any sense. It was the area or chunk of land they were on at the time. If god told them of other continents and other places the people of that time would have no clue of what he was talking about. All they knew was the their whole world. It was ment for the people of that time.
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RE: The Universe and Big Bang
November 21, 2013 at 2:18 pm
(November 21, 2013 at 2:14 pm)super spidey man Wrote: Ok, I thought you were going to say that. But the flood wasn't world wide that wouldn't make any sense. It was the area or chunk of land they were on at the time. If god told them of other continents and other places the people of that time would have no clue of what he was talking about. All they knew was the their whole world. It was ment for the people of that time.
Precisely. At least you are of the mind to not take biblical allegories literally. If you are not a literalist, there is yet still hope for you.
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RE: The Universe and Big Bang
November 21, 2013 at 2:20 pm
(November 21, 2013 at 2:14 pm)super spidey man Wrote: Ok, I thought you were going to say that. But the flood wasn't world wide that wouldn't make any sense. It was the area or chunk of land they were on at the time. If god told them of other continents and other places the people of that time would have no clue of what he was talking about. All they knew was the their whole world. It was ment for the people of that time.
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RE: The Universe and Big Bang
November 21, 2013 at 2:25 pm
(November 21, 2013 at 2:20 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: (November 21, 2013 at 2:14 pm)super spidey man Wrote: Ok, I thought you were going to say that. But the flood wasn't world wide that wouldn't make any sense. It was the area or chunk of land they were on at the time. If god told them of other continents and other places the people of that time would have no clue of what he was talking about. All they knew was the their whole world. It was ment for the people of that time.
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Understand their was not every species of animal on the ark. only the ones native to the area. God said the world because it was ment for these people who would not understand what we know as the whole world, this was long ago. The bible still hasn't had an error.
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RE: The Universe and Big Bang
November 21, 2013 at 2:29 pm
(November 21, 2013 at 2:14 pm)super spidey man Wrote: Ok, I thought you were going to say that. But the flood wasn't world wide that wouldn't make any sense. It was the area or chunk of land they were on at the time. If god told them of other continents and other places the people of that time would have no clue of what he was talking about. All they knew was the their whole world. It was ment for the people of that time.
Why would it have been such a mind-blowing revelation that there are other continents and other peoples? I'm pretty sure the ancient Hebrews could have handled the news.
Let's dispense with the fiction that "God" revealed anything in the Bible. The reason the flood is understood by the story's author(s) to be a worldwide event is because is was written by and for a provincial desert people who were utterly ignorant of the sophisticated, flourishing contemporary civilizations (e.g., the Chinese, the Indians, etc.) that made a mockery of their pretensions of being a "chosen people," rather than the ass-backward hicks they really were. The story is the product of ignorance, nothing more. Yahweh didn't spare anyone uncomfortable knowledge of the wider world. Yahweh didn't because Yahweh isn't. Your Bible is a human artifact from a bygone time.
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RE: The Universe and Big Bang
November 21, 2013 at 2:30 pm
(November 21, 2013 at 2:29 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Why would it have been such a mind-blowing revelation that there are other continents and other peoples?
To remind you of history, no one knew of the Americas until it was discovered.
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RE: The Universe and Big Bang
November 21, 2013 at 2:31 pm
(November 21, 2013 at 2:14 pm)super spidey man Wrote: (November 21, 2013 at 1:39 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: This has been done to death but you are new here so i'll go over the main points.
First, the flood, there is no evidence of a world wide flood. Where did the water come from? Where did it go?
Secondly, pretty much every species of animal that couldn't swim, was on that ark. The ark would have had to have been impossible big to fit all the animals on and have enough food for all of them and the humans aboard. How did the humans manage to feed all the animals, remove their waste and feed themselves. There was only like 10 people aboard right? How did they survive with no fresh water?. Why did the animals not eat each other?.Also how did all the animals get there? How for example did the sloth manage to crawl all the way there in time to get aboard. Also 2 of every animal right? So then why is there no evidence of a genetic bottleneck all of the species alive today?
I will be extremely surprised if you can answer all of these questions without saying goddidit or resorting to magic, but you are entitled to try.
Ok, I thought you were going to say that. But the flood wasn't world wide that wouldn't make any sense. It was the area or chunk of land they were on at the time. If god told them of other continents and other places the people of that time would have no clue of what he was talking about. All they knew was the their whole world. It was ment for the people of that time.
Good thinking boy. You are completely correct if we are to read it Literally it becomes messed up if we read it figuratively then we can see it probably ment something else.
Problem is most of the bible is half and half so theres no real consistency.
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RE: The Universe and Big Bang
November 21, 2013 at 2:38 pm
(November 21, 2013 at 2:25 pm)super spidey man Wrote: Understand their was not every species of animal on the ark. only the ones native to the area. God said the world because it was ment for these people who would not understand what we know as the whole world, this was long ago. The bible still hasn't had an error.
Please address everything in one post to make it clear
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RE: The Universe and Big Bang
November 21, 2013 at 2:44 pm
(November 21, 2013 at 2:30 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: (November 21, 2013 at 2:29 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Why would it have been such a mind-blowing revelation that there are other continents and other peoples?
To remind you of history, no one knew of the Americas until it was discovered.
Right, except for the millions of people who lived there. Besides, the ancient Hebrews were ignorant of most of the people who lived on their own continent. I doubt a "revelation" of the existence of the Chinese would have been terribly upsetting or whatever if Yahweh had seen fit to inform them of it.
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