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The Universe and Big Bang
#81
RE: The Universe and Big Bang
(November 21, 2013 at 4:36 pm)super spidey man Wrote: Your inability to believe the real story

I have seen no verifiable proof that anything contained within the bible can be linked to history. Would you like to be the first in history to change that and perhaps earn a Nobel as a result?

(November 21, 2013 at 4:36 pm)super spidey man Wrote: and wanting to believe anything that disproves the bible shows you don't even want to try to believe it.

False. There is absolutely nothing to prove the bible as anything more than man's imagination creating another fiction novel.

(November 21, 2013 at 4:36 pm)super spidey man Wrote: Don't you ever worry even if you could be wrong which I believe you are have to go into eternal Damnation?

If any verifiable evidence arises that proves me wrong, then I would accept the bible as historically accurate. If the bible is proven as historically accurate, does that mean the psychotic god withing is worthy of worship? Hardly.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#82
RE: The Universe and Big Bang
(November 21, 2013 at 4:36 pm)super spidey man Wrote: Don't you ever worry even if you could be wrong which I believe you are have to go into eternal Damnation?

I swear, one of these days I'm going to build that time machine just so I can go back and give Pascal such a slap round the head.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#83
RE: The Universe and Big Bang
Have you ever considered what if you are wrong spidey?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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#84
RE: The Universe and Big Bang
(November 21, 2013 at 5:13 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Have you ever considered what if you are wrong spidey?

There is no doubt he is wrong. It depends upon whether he is willing to accept it or not.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#85
RE: The Universe and Big Bang
(November 21, 2013 at 5:16 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:
(November 21, 2013 at 5:13 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Have you ever considered what if you are wrong spidey?

There is no doubt he is wrong. It depends upon whether he is willing to accept it or not.

Ignorance is bliss!

Purposeful ignorance is also bliss!
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#86
RE: The Universe and Big Bang
(November 21, 2013 at 4:02 pm)pocaracas Wrote:
(November 21, 2013 at 3:32 pm)super spidey man Wrote: And who knows where muhamad came from and got his source all by himself?
And who knows where Paul came from and got his source all by himself?
And who knows where Mathew came from and got his source all by himself?
And who knows where Moses came from and got his source all by himself?

When Jesus died and was resurrected he had witnesses and that's big deal that they all died horrible deaths knowing they were going to for Jesus. People don't just simply die for a lie. Those people are talking about the same thing and about god not just for their own reasons. not about themselves. And all this is justified by the death of Christ and coming back from the dead! and death of Jesus was prophesied hundreds of years before.
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#87
RE: The Universe and Big Bang
(November 21, 2013 at 5:48 pm)super spidey man Wrote: When Jesus died and was resurrected he had witnesses and that's big deal that they all died horrible deaths knowing they were going to for Jesus.

The only witnesses are biblical witnesses. The bible is an inaccurate source of evidence to prove that the bible is historical.

(November 21, 2013 at 5:48 pm)super spidey man Wrote: People don't just simply die for a lie.

Yes, they do. All the time. To protect loved ones, in most instances.

(November 21, 2013 at 5:48 pm)super spidey man Wrote: and death of Jesus was prophesied hundreds of years before.

Prophecy is no more real just because the god is associated than psychics are real today. And yes, some psychics do proclaim belief in god.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#88
RE: The Universe and Big Bang
(November 21, 2013 at 5:13 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Have you ever considered what if you are wrong spidey?

How could I consider if I'm wrong if You have no evidence of your own. And their is plenty of evidence all around you of God. At least knowing Jesus is real, How bout Genesis 15:17-18 , Ezekiel 34:13 , Ezekiel 36:20-24/ These are verses saying that the Jews were going to become a nation and gathered from the country's to become a nation. This was a prophesy in the bible. Not to long ago after the holocaust happened I'm sure you are aware of and all the Jews came to Israel and became a nation like scripture said.
Found evidence all over of real places found not to long ago that was in the bible. archeologists finding evidence that there must have been a king David, the supernatural or demonic things, this Universe This world, If there was a god wouldn't you think he would want to show you him and a reason why your here or how to live your life? Which craft which the bible says clearly to stay away from. People being miraculously healed? The shroud of Tourin could be legit but not sure you can research that on your own. Personal experiences with atheist all over the world coming to know god? to me God is as real as this computer I'm typing on and their is evidence everywhere! archeologists finding new things everyday about the bible and using that to find stuff.

(November 21, 2013 at 5:48 pm)super spidey man Wrote: People don't just simply die for a lie.

Yes, they do. All the time. To protect loved ones, in most instances.


people do not die for a lie that they know is a lie!
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#89
RE: The Universe and Big Bang
(November 21, 2013 at 6:10 pm)super spidey man Wrote: How could I consider if I'm wrong if You have no evidence of your own.
I was actually referring to all the other religions, if you are wrong about yours, you may end up in Buddhist hell or Muslim hell or something like that

(November 21, 2013 at 6:10 pm)super spidey man Wrote: And their is plenty of evidence all around you of God. At least knowing Jesus is real, How bout Genesis 15:17-18 , Ezekiel 34:13 , Ezekiel 36:20-24/ These are verses saying that the Jews were going to become a nation and gathered from the country's to become a nation. This was a prophesy in the bible. Not to long ago after the holocaust happened I'm sure you are aware of and all the Jews came to Israel and became a nation like scripture said.
Prophecies (especially from the bible) are incredibly un specific and so are irrelevant

(November 21, 2013 at 6:10 pm)super spidey man Wrote: Found evidence all over of real places found not to long ago that was in the bible.
Spiderman lives in New York city. New York city is real, therefore Spiderman is real.


(November 21, 2013 at 6:10 pm)super spidey man Wrote: to me God is as real as this computer I'm typing on and their is evidence everywhere!

So you use god to search for porn?
But no seriously now, how is god as real as your computer? Can you see him? Touch him? Hear him? Smell him?

(November 21, 2013 at 5:48 pm)super spidey man Wrote: people do not die for a lie that they know is a lie!

People die for lies that they do not know are lies
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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#90
RE: The Universe and Big Bang
(November 21, 2013 at 5:48 pm)super spidey man Wrote:
(November 21, 2013 at 4:02 pm)pocaracas Wrote: And who knows where Paul came from and got his source all by himself?
And who knows where Mathew came from and got his source all by himself?
And who knows where Moses came from and got his source all by himself?

When Jesus died and was resurrected he had witnesses and that's big deal that they all died horrible deaths knowing they were going to for Jesus. People don't just simply die for a lie. Those people are talking about the same thing and about god not just for their own reasons. not about themselves. And all this is justified by the death of Christ and coming back from the dead! and death of Jesus was prophesied hundreds of years before.
Yes they would... many people die for a lie... nothing new there...
Remember y2k?

Now, did those witnesses really die for that particular lie?
Did they really witness that event?
Or did someone just write it that way, for added dramatic effect?
Did that event occur at all?
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