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The Reality of Churches (and their selfish agendas)
#11
RE: The Reality of Churches (and their selfish agendas)
I give kudos to your observation, but there is no button to click that expresses my shared disgust for the truth of what you're pointing out. It really makes me sick.
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#12
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Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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#13
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Old news, actually.

Quote:Of learned men, the clergy show the lowest development of professional ethics. Any pastor is free to cadge customers from the divines of rival sects, and to denounce the divines themselves as theological quacks.
— H L Mencken, Minority Report (1956
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#14
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(November 20, 2013 at 4:41 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: $87,000 ROFLOL

Silly...

My former pastor makes 3 times that much,

It's really sick actually. It's times like these
when I wish that hell were real, and that I
would know these guys would burn there forever.

pastors doing that will, scamming people out of their money
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#15
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The Reality Salesman, the link to the advertisement tips page doesn't work, it says 404 for me. Mind fixing it?

Other than that ... I always knew they make a lot, but seeing the actual number and knowing they don't have to pay taxes for it really pisses me off. These people work 1 day per week and do SHIT. They do not do half the good work volunteers do for free in an hour. I am a dirt poor uni student and I've been working part-time and summer jobs throughout my entire uni career, even when I had research projects to do and heavy workload at school. And I can't even buy stuff I like, I barely go out if I know others will expect me to spend money, for a whole year when I was still earning 10 dollars per hour (min wage here), I had to work so much I would be out for 10 hour stretches and I don't eat even though I was hungry, I'd wait till I go home to have food. I don't mind that I'm poor, I know the price for the type of service I provide and I don't expect more, but it just pisses me off thinking that there's someone else like me who would seriously give up 10% of their earnings to a pastor like this to get nothing in return. I can get a new pair of shoes each month with that type of money, and trust me, those are WAY better at making you feel great (and, yes, I measure my wealth by estimating the number of shoes I'm able to buy). What the hell is wrong with this world?

(November 20, 2013 at 8:54 pm)super spidey man Wrote:
(November 20, 2013 at 4:41 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: $87,000 ROFLOL

Silly...

My former pastor makes 3 times that much,

It's really sick actually. It's times like these
when I wish that hell were real, and that I
would know these guys would burn there forever.

pastors doing that will, scamming people out of their money

All pastors who collect are scamming. They're collecting based on false pretences and almost none of them show the parish how the money is spent.

Not that much different from the Nigerian scamming thing that was quite popular for a while, where they tell you you'll get a lot of money (false pretences), and you believe them, and you do not see your money or them ever again (only with pastors you keep seeing them and keep feeding them).
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#16
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I wonder if there are any atheist fakers among the pastors you seem to have a problem with? Thinking

Dont forget, parishioners have already paid tax on the money they freely give to their church - only part of which pays for the pastor to have a house and 3 meals a day and a car to get around in.

... so they can go to funerals and help comfort the bereaved, visit palliative care wards at hospitals to pray with the dying, do chaplaincy work at nursing homes, help organize soup kitchens,
meet and help with the rehabilitation of prison inmates, visit disabled/invalids in their homes to hand out Holy Communion,
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#17
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Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#18
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(November 21, 2013 at 1:59 am)Lion IRC Wrote: I wonder if there are any atheist fakers among the pastors you seem to have a problem with? Thinking

Oh, would you fuck off, with that?

Honestly, you can't confirm this baseless accusation, you don't even know which pastors we're talking about, so all this is is dishonest fucking mudslinging in a desperate attempt to deflect from an issue you have no answer for.

"Nuh uh, because... uh... atheists!"
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#19
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Excuse me?
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#20
RE: The Reality of Churches (and their selfish agendas)
(November 21, 2013 at 1:59 am)Lion IRC Wrote: ... so they can go to funerals and help comfort the bereaved, visit palliative care wards at hospitals to pray with the dying, do chaplaincy work at nursing homes, help organize soup kitchens,
meet and help with the rehabilitation of prison inmates, visit disabled/invalids in their homes to hand out Holy Communion,

Funny how all that can be done without being a pastor
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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